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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Glen Leslie
 
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Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

I know it's way late in the season... I just started extract brewing about a month ago. I'd like to get some hops in the ground for next year.

Can't find anyone on the internet who still has any for sale.

Glen Leslie
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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

"Glen Leslie" wrote:
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>I know it's way late in the season... I just started
>extract brewing about a month ago. I'd like to
>get some hops in the ground for next year.[/color]

Where do you live? Depending on your growing zone, there may not be enough
time for your plants to develop enough to survive the winter.

Brina


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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Thomas T. Veldhouse
 
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?


"yew" <nsyew@premier1.net> wrote in message
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> "Glen Leslie" wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I know it's way late in the season... I just started
> >extract brewing about a month ago. I'd like to
> >get some hops in the ground for next year.[/color]
>
> Where do you live? Depending on your growing zone, there may not be[/color]
enough[color=blue]
> time for your plants to develop enough to survive the winter.
>
> Brina
>[/color]

Hops grow and flower by the light cycle (the length of the day), so it
doesn't matter, if you try and plant a rhizome, you will likely get a messed
up plant anyway. You may as well wait to plant first thing in the spring.

Tom Veldhouse


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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
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>Hops grow and flower by the light
>cycle (the length of the day), so it
>doesn't matter, if you try and plant
>a rhizome, you will likely get a messed
>up plant anyway.[/color]

Define "messed up". I live in Zone 8 (Pacific Northwest maritime climate)
and have pulled up and transplanted hunks of cascade rhizomes in the late
summer and fall. As we don't get much in the way of hard frosts here, the
transplants do fine as long as I give them a little time (about a month)
before the first light frost. Granted, they don't grow well or produce
anything the first season, but they establish themselves nicely thereafter.

If our poster lives in a climate similar to mine, he can transplant away.
Otherwise, he should wait until the spring.

Brina


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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Thomas T. Veldhouse
 
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?


"yew" <nsyew@premier1.net> wrote in message
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> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:[/color]
[color=blue]
> Define "messed up". I live in Zone 8 (Pacific Northwest maritime climate)
> and have pulled up and transplanted hunks of cascade rhizomes in the late
> summer and fall. As we don't get much in the way of hard frosts here, the
> transplants do fine as long as I give them a little time (about a month)
> before the first light frost. Granted, they don't grow well or produce
> anything the first season, but they establish themselves nicely[/color]
thereafter.

What I mean by messed up is that they will be starting the growth phase very
late and then be forced into their flowering phase almost immediately, thus,
the plant has all the wrong hormones floating around. Not much of a quality
crop there. Since the plant is going to be smaller and their will be
appreciable crop this year, you may as well wait until next year to plant a
rhizome and just do it right.

Tom Veldhouse



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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
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>What I mean by messed up is that they will be
>starting the growth phase very late and then be
>forced into their flowering phase almost immediately,
>thus, the plant has all the wrong hormones floating around.
>Not much of a quality crop there.[/color]

I understand bolting, but I still disagree. The rhizomes I plant this time
of year generally get a nice head start on store-bought first year rhizomes
(and I've never had one bolt in our relatively cool summers). Again, take
the climate into account. If planting now does little or no harm and gives
those in temperate climates a head start next spring, there's no good reason
not to do so. Yeah, it's not optimal, but who cares? Hops (esp. my
cascades) are dandy little weeds and will adapt nicely to many adverse
situations.

Brina


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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Stephen Russell
 
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

Thomas I think that your first year is going to be a bust anyway in the
yield department. You get root growth that you need for next years harvest.

__Stephen



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> "yew" <nsyew@premier1.net> wrote in message
> news:vhaulii473njbb@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
> > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Define "messed up". I live in Zone 8 (Pacific Northwest maritime[/color][/color]
climate)[color=blue][color=green]
> > and have pulled up and transplanted hunks of cascade rhizomes in the[/color][/color]
late[color=blue][color=green]
> > summer and fall. As we don't get much in the way of hard frosts here,[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > transplants do fine as long as I give them a little time (about a month)
> > before the first light frost. Granted, they don't grow well or produce
> > anything the first season, but they establish themselves nicely[/color]
> thereafter.
>
> What I mean by messed up is that they will be starting the growth phase[/color]
very[color=blue]
> late and then be forced into their flowering phase almost immediately,[/color]
thus,[color=blue]
> the plant has all the wrong hormones floating around. Not much of a[/color]
quality[color=blue]
> crop there. Since the plant is going to be smaller and their will be
> appreciable crop this year, you may as well wait until next year to plant[/color]
a[color=blue]
> rhizome and just do it right.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
>
>
>[/color]


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Old 12-05-2004, 05:31 PM
Glen Leslie
 
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Re: Anybody wanna sell me some Cascade hop rhizome?

Yew. I live in E. Tennessee. Someone sent me a rhizome. We'll see. Like
you said in earlier posts here... might as well try to get it in the ground
and get some root so nxt year is a productive year.

Thanks,

Glen
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> "Glen Leslie" wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I know it's way late in the season... I just started
> >extract brewing about a month ago. I'd like to
> >get some hops in the ground for next year.[/color]
>
> Where do you live? Depending on your growing zone, there may not be[/color]
enough[color=blue]
> time for your plants to develop enough to survive the winter.
>
> Brina
>
>[/color]


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