I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.

I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half the
price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still see no
activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by this
time.

The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away (hence
the reason for the clearance price I guess).

for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
[url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]

However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say follow
manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and follow
alternate instructions such as those in the link above.

What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
still be good ?
is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do any
good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I just
wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)

Any advice welcome,
Thanks,
Craig (Ajax, ON)

Are you using Mr Beer??

"Craig Bennett" <craig_b@no-spam.com> wrote in message
news:2rIjf.4705$Et5.295908@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
> type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
> started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.
>
> I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half
> the price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still
> see no activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by
> this time.
>
> The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away (hence
> the reason for the clearance price I guess).
>
> for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
> [url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]
>
> However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say
> follow manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and
> follow alternate instructions such as those in the link above.
>
> What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
> still be good ?
> is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do
> any good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I
> just wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
> experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)
>
> Any advice welcome,
> Thanks,
> Craig (Ajax, ON)
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]

no, coopers ipa kit (the one I'm having a problem with)

"junkhunter" <junkhunter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2yJjf.34750$6e1.13984@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> Are you using Mr Beer??
>
> "Craig Bennett" <craig_b@no-spam.com> wrote in message
> news:2rIjf.4705$Et5.295908@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=green]
>> I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
>> type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
>> started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.
>>
>> I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half
>> the price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still
>> see no activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by
>> this time.
>>
>> The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away
>> (hence the reason for the clearance price I guess).
>>
>> for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
>> [url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]
>>
>> However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say
>> follow manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and
>> follow alternate instructions such as those in the link above.
>>
>> What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
>> still be good ?
>> is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do
>> any good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I
>> just wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
>> experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)
>>
>> Any advice welcome,
>> Thanks,
>> Craig (Ajax, ON)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]



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On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:47:10 -0500, "Craig Bennett"
<craig_b@no-spam.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
>type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
>started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.
>
>I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half the
>price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still see no
>activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by this
>time.
>
>The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away (hence
>the reason for the clearance price I guess).
>
>for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
>[url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]
>
>However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say follow
>manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and follow
>alternate instructions such as those in the link above.
>
>What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
>still be good ?
>is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do any
>good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I just
>wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
>experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)
>
>Any advice welcome,
>Thanks,
>Craig (Ajax, ON)[/color]

Patience.

Avery[color=blue]
>
>
>
>
>[/color]
Brew on brother!
SW US desert

Hey ! I'm seeing fermenting activity, after about 55hrs. Seems you were
right, Patience was the ingredient I was missing.

I'm learning !

thanks.


"Avery" <averymeadows@direcpc.com> wrote in message
news:8gevo1h0n54n112uuvjlkohhkm73s6900d@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:47:10 -0500, "Craig Bennett"
> <craig_b@no-spam.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
>>type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
>>started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.
>>
>>I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half
>>the
>>price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still see
>>no
>>activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by this
>>time.
>>
>>The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away (hence
>>the reason for the clearance price I guess).
>>
>>for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
>>[url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]
>>
>>However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say
>>follow
>>manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and follow
>>alternate instructions such as those in the link above.
>>
>>What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
>>still be good ?
>>is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do
>>any
>>good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I just
>>wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
>>experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)
>>
>>Any advice welcome,
>>Thanks,
>>Craig (Ajax, ON)[/color]
>
> Patience.
>
> Avery[color=green]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[/color]
> Brew on brother!
> SW US desert[/color]

[hevimees]

I've made quite many beers from Cooper's kits, and all of them have started
bubbling after approximately 12 hours. So maybe the yeast in the kit was in
bad shape since it was rather old.

Anyways the instructions in Cooper's kits are OK as long as you remember to
do two things that aren't mentioned: aerate the wort and rehydrate the yeast. These are two very important basic things missing from many many many
beer kits' instructions. Sad but true...

Boiling the wort in these kits isn't necessary, and it won't improve the taste
one bit (it might even make it worse), you're just doing unnecessary extra
work.

thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to follow that for the next kit and see
where it takes me.



"hevimees" <hevimees.1zfepu@usenet.brewtank.com> wrote in message
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>
> I've made quite many beers from Cooper's kits, and all of them have
> started
> bubbling after approximately 12 hours. So maybe the yeast in the kit
> was in
> bad shape since it was rather old.
>
> Anyways the instructions in Cooper's kits are OK as long as you
> remember to
> do two things that aren't mentioned: aerate the wort and rehydrate the
> yeast. These are two very important basic things missing from many many
> many
> beer kits' instructions. Sad but true...
>
> Boiling the wort in these kits isn't necessary, and it won't improve
> the taste
> one bit (it might even make it worse), you're just doing unnecessary
> extra
> work.
>
>
> --
> hevimees
>
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Coopers yeasts are amongst the most reliable being quick start, temperature
tolerant, & vigorous.
I am told (but have not been able to prove it) that there is a sacrifice of
final beer quality that results.
Many times I have pitched in a Cooprs yeast when the upmarket kit supplied
yeast failed to start, always with the quickstart result expected.
I now advise: always pitch with two yeast samples, preferably the same yeast
but from different batches & act quickly if you do not see fermentation
start within 12 hours, always assuming that the start temperature is 18 Deg
C minimum.
Pete

"Craig Bennett" <craig_b@no-spam.com> wrote in message
news:2rIjf.4705$Et5.295908@news20.bellglobal.com...[color=blue]
> I've brewed just one batch successfully, it was a brewhouse wort-in-a-bag
> type kit and came out very good, in fact it exceeded my expectations. I
> started a second brewhouse kit and that is coming along nicely.
>
> I've started a third coopers IPA kit, (it was on sale at less than half
> the price of the brewhouse) and 36 hrs after pitching the yeast, I still
> see no activity. both the brewhouses kits were fermenting aggressively by
> this time.
>
> The expiry date on the coopers IPA was 1/26/06 - just 2 months away (hence
> the reason for the clearance price I guess).
>
> for brewing the coopers kit I pretty much followed the instructions on
> [url]http://www.bodensatz.com/staticpages/index.php?page=20020413075309659#choosing[/url]
>
> However, I now read conflicting ways of brewing these kits - some say
> follow manufacturer instructions, others say toss the instructions and
> follow alternate instructions such as those in the link above.
>
> What are the chances that the yeast that came with the coopers kit will
> still be good ?
> is there anything I can do to start it fermenting ? Will it harm it / do
> any good to pitch some fresh yeast into it at this time ? ...or should I
> just wait a little longer ? ...or should I ditch it and chalk it up to
> experience...(If it seems to good a deal to be true, then it usually is)
>
> Any advice welcome,
> Thanks,
> Craig (Ajax, ON)
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]