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Old 12-08-2005, 07:38 PM
Roy Boy
 
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Carbonation pump

Has anyone tried using a carbonation pump (Like used in a soda fountain)?


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Old 12-09-2005, 08:37 AM
wbarwell
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

Roy Boy wrote:
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> Has anyone tried using a carbonation pump (Like used in a soda
> fountain)?[/color]

Yes, lots of people. Google cornelius keg.



--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.**"I*don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.**It is*one*of*those*interesting*words*that
have two contradictory meanings.**Applied*to*an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
****-George*Orwell*"Nineteen*Eighty-Four"


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Old 12-15-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: Carbonation pump


"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11pj492rgdlk679@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
> Roy Boy wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Has anyone tried using a carbonation pump (Like used in a soda
>> fountain)?[/color]
>
> Yes, lots of people. Google cornelius keg.[/color]

Regardless of what wbarwell thinks, most soda fountains use a "premix,"
which is a flavor concentrate. The "flavor" (it's a concentrate) then gets
pumped to a mixer that dumps water and CO2 into a solution with the "flavor"
to create the soda you request from your soda fountain output. A cornelius
keg set-up is very different than a soda fountain set-up, even though soda
does get distributed to the place where the fountain is in cornelius kegs.
So, unless you want to make a "beer concentrate" (which I'm fairly certain
would drive the alcohol out of the mix) you ain't gonna use a carbonation
pump like they use at a soda fountain.


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Old 12-15-2005, 01:44 PM
wbarwell
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

changey wrote:
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>
> "wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
> news:11pj492rgdlk679@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
>> Roy Boy wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Has anyone tried using a carbonation pump (Like used in a soda
>>> fountain)?[/color]
>>
>> Yes, lots of people. Google cornelius keg.[/color]
>
> Regardless of what wbarwell thinks, most soda fountains use a
> "premix,"
> which is a flavor concentrate. The "flavor" (it's a concentrate)
> then gets pumped to a mixer that dumps water and CO2 into a solution
> with the "flavor"
> to create the soda you request from your soda fountain output. A
> cornelius keg set-up is very different than a soda fountain set-up,
> even though soda does get distributed to the place where the
> fountain is in cornelius kegs. So, unless you want to make a "beer
> concentrate" (which I'm fairly certain would drive the alcohol out
> of the mix) you ain't gonna use a carbonation pump like they use at
> a soda fountain.[/color]


Of course there are no beer premixes ala soda. Obviously.
But if you want a beer on tap, or to carbonate beer in a keg
rather than natural priming, or carbonate beer to bottle it
without lees and dregs natural priming leaves in a bottle,
one usually uses a corny keg and CO2 tank and regulator.

To the original poster, ignore the above nonsense about
soft drinks.

Kegs are pretty standard way of handling home brew.
Google: homebrew, cornelius keg, keg systems.






--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.**"I*don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.**It is*one*of*those*interesting*words*that
have two contradictory meanings.**Applied*to*an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
****-George*Orwell*"Nineteen*Eighty-Four"


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Old 12-15-2005, 01:44 PM
steveb
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:19:17 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
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>
>To the original poster, ignore the above nonsense about
>soft drinks.[/color]

er ... it wasn't nonsense, it was accurate.[color=blue]
>
>Kegs are pretty standard way of handling home brew.
>Google: homebrew, cornelius keg, keg systems.[/color]

Yes, this is patently true. However, in a soda machine the kegs are
used to carry non-carbonated concentrate. The only pressure is that
needed to push the concentrate into the machine, where it is mixed
with force carbonated water. This is NOT going to work for beer.

Beer needs to be carbonated in the keg, then dispensed. It can be
force carbonated, or naturally carbonated and CO2 used to push it out
.... either works.

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Old 12-15-2005, 09:34 PM
wbarwell
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

steveb wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:19:17 -0600, wbarwell
> <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>To the original poster, ignore the above nonsense about
>>soft drinks.[/color]
>
> er ... it wasn't nonsense, it was accurate.[/color]

Errrr. No.

People have been setting up kegged beer dispensors
for ages. There are even a number of sites showing
how to set it up permanently in a frigerator.

The bullshit about dispensing soft drinks was
pointless, beside the point and irrelevant.

You can carbonate beer in a keg, or dispense it
from a keg, or carbonate it in a keg and bottle it.
This is what is important. Ignorant blather
about soft drinks is simply irrelevant to kegging
beer which can be done easily if you are willing
to put out the $$$$ for the gear.

The OP was asking about dispensing homebrewed beer
from a keg it looks like. No prob. Rack beer from
the secondary to a keg hook up the CO2 carbonate
in a fridge, dispense from a hose and nozzle
when the beer has adequately carbonated to desired
carbonation level.

Google: Homebrew beer, keg

What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
pointless lecture on soft drinks.

There are dozens of sites that tell how it is
done and sells the kegs and accessories.
Once one knows it can be done with cornelius kegs,
its a matter of deciding if the cost is warranted
for what you want to do.

Many people keg beer, many homebrew suppliers
sell the gear. That is what the OP wanted to know.



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>>
>>Kegs are pretty standard way of handling home brew.
>>Google: homebrew, cornelius keg, keg systems.[/color]
>
> Yes, this is patently true. However, in a soda machine the kegs are
> used to carry non-carbonated concentrate. The only pressure is that
> needed to push the concentrate into the machine, where it is mixed
> with force carbonated water. This is NOT going to work for beer.
>
> Beer needs to be carbonated in the keg, then dispensed. It can be
> force carbonated, or naturally carbonated and CO2 used to push it
> out ... either works.
>
> steveb[/color]

No ****, Sherlock. Rather than blather ignorantly
about soft drinks, speak to the subject. Beer
and cornelius kegs. Dispensing beer can be done.
Cornelis keg systems is how its done in the homebrew
world.





--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.**"I*don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.**It is*one*of*those*interesting*words*that
have two contradictory meanings.**Applied*to*an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
****-George*Orwell*"Nineteen*Eighty-Four"


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Old 12-15-2005, 10:36 PM
steveb
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:46:31 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
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>What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
>pointless lecture on soft drinks.[/color]

The OP asked specifically about dispensing beer with a soda fountain
pump.

Which bit of *you can't read* are you struggluing with the most?

The only irrelevant and pointless contributor in this thread is you
..... get over yourself already.

I'm done with you .... 3rd grade was long ago.

steveb
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:29 PM
changey
 
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Re: Carbonation pump


"steveb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:taf4q19ljdorrhhhma6995i5vq2gheesd1@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:46:31 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
>>pointless lecture on soft drinks.[/color]
>
> The OP asked specifically about dispensing beer with a soda fountain
> pump.
>
> Which bit of *you can't read* are you struggluing with the most?
>
> The only irrelevant and pointless contributor in this thread is you
> .... get over yourself already.
>
> I'm done with you .... 3rd grade was long ago.
>
> steveb[/color]

Thanks, steveb. I was gone for a few days. Watching this guy be a kickfuck
is funny, though.

I am a kegger. I fully know about Cornelius kegs. Nowhere in a beer system
is there a carbonation pump, like the OP asked. Gee, it's even in the title
of the thread!!! SILLY ME!!!!

I said good day.


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Old 12-16-2005, 04:58 PM
wbarwell
 
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Re: Carbonation pump

changey wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "steveb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:taf4q19ljdorrhhhma6995i5vq2gheesd1@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:46:31 -0600, wbarwell
>> <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
>>>pointless lecture on soft drinks.[/color]
>>
>> The OP asked specifically about dispensing beer with a soda
>> fountain pump.
>>
>> Which bit of *you can't read* are you struggluing with the most?
>>
>> The only irrelevant and pointless contributor in this thread is you
>> .... get over yourself already.
>>
>> I'm done with you .... 3rd grade was long ago.
>>
>> steveb[/color]
>
> Thanks, steveb. I was gone for a few days. Watching this guy be a
> kickfuck is funny, though.
>
> I am a kegger. I fully know about Cornelius kegs. Nowhere in a
> beer system
> is there a carbonation pump, like the OP asked. Gee, it's even in
> the title of the thread!!! SILLY ME!!!!
>
> I said good day.[/color]

If anybody had brains enough to point OP to a homebrew
supply website explaining kegs rather than pontificating
on soft drink bullshit, at longwinded but irrelvant
length,you'd have saved OP a lot of trouble.

Of course there ain't no "carbonation pump".
There are CO2 bottles and regulators.

Of course having been a pontificating fuckwit,
said fuckwit can't admit it and go on.

OP simply had an inkling about using a keg but
didn't know the right terminology.



--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.**"I*don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.**It is*one*of*those*interesting*words*that
have two contradictory meanings.**Applied*to*an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
****-George*Orwell*"Nineteen*Eighty-Four"


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Old 12-16-2005, 10:10 PM
changey
 
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Re: Carbonation pump


"wbarwell" <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11q6h4nkrpvb0f9@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
> changey wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "steveb" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:taf4q19ljdorrhhhma6995i5vq2gheesd1@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:46:31 -0600, wbarwell
>>> <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
>>>>pointless lecture on soft drinks.
>>>
>>> The OP asked specifically about dispensing beer with a soda
>>> fountain pump.
>>>
>>> Which bit of *you can't read* are you struggluing with the most?
>>>
>>> The only irrelevant and pointless contributor in this thread is you
>>> .... get over yourself already.
>>>
>>> I'm done with you .... 3rd grade was long ago.
>>>
>>> steveb[/color]
>>
>> Thanks, steveb. I was gone for a few days. Watching this guy be a
>> kickfuck is funny, though.
>>
>> I am a kegger. I fully know about Cornelius kegs. Nowhere in a
>> beer system
>> is there a carbonation pump, like the OP asked. Gee, it's even in
>> the title of the thread!!! SILLY ME!!!!
>>
>> I said good day.[/color]
>
> If anybody had brains enough to point OP to a homebrew
> supply website explaining kegs rather than pontificating
> on soft drink bullshit, at longwinded but irrelvant
> length,you'd have saved OP a lot of trouble.
>
> Of course there ain't no "carbonation pump".
> There are CO2 bottles and regulators.
>
> Of course having been a pontificating fuckwit,
> said fuckwit can't admit it and go on.
>
> OP simply had an inkling about using a keg but
> didn't know the right terminology.
>
>[/color]

Dear Dork,

Thanks for the link to a homebrew supply store. It was very helpful.



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