Hello!

I´m planning to brew a Berliner Weisse. Does someone here know the
composition of the water in Berlin?

Regards
Micke Granath

Micke & Annalena wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello!
>
> I´m planning to brew a Berliner Weisse. Does someone here know the
> composition of the water in Berlin?
>
> Regards
> Micke Granath
>
>[/color]

1 part hydrogen, 8 parts oxygen.

"Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message
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> Micke & Annalena wrote:[color=green]
> > Hello!
> >
> > I´m planning to brew a Berliner Weisse. Does someone here know the
> > composition of the water in Berlin?
> >
> > Regards
> > Micke Granath
> >
> >[/color]
>
> 1 part hydrogen, 8 parts oxygen.[/color]

that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the bomb"
:-)

dechucka wrote:
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> "Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message[color=green]
>>
>>1 part hydrogen, 8 parts oxygen.[/color]
>
> that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the bomb"
> :-)[/color]

AMU of Oxygen is 16; AMU of Hydrogen is 1. :)

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:51:32 GMT, Steve Hay
<hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote:
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>dechucka wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>1 part hydrogen, 8 parts oxygen.[/color]
>>
>> that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the bomb"
>> :-)[/color]
>
>AMU of Oxygen is 16; AMU of Hydrogen is 1. :)[/color]
Ture but no correct, unless you are counting by mass only. It takes
the full complent of protons and neutrons to make oxygen, otherwise
you would have several extra hydrogen and a few spare neutrons laying
about, but a good joke anyway, thanks

"Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message
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> dechucka wrote:
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> > "Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message[color=darkred]
> >>
> >>1 part hydrogen, 8 parts oxygen.[/color]
> >
> > that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the[/color][/color]
bomb"[color=blue][color=green]
> > :-)[/color]
>
> AMU of Oxygen is 16; AMU of Hydrogen is 1. :)[/color]

and I stupidly thought it took 1 part of oxygen to 2 parts of hydrogen to
make water, there goes all that time studying chemistry at Uni.

a new age kinda guy wrote:
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> On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:51:32 GMT, Steve Hay
> <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the bomb"
>>>:-)[/color]
>>
>>AMU of Oxygen is 16; AMU of Hydrogen is 1. :)[/color]
>
> Ture but no correct, unless you are counting by mass only. It takes
> the full complent of protons and neutrons to make oxygen, otherwise
> you would have several extra hydrogen and a few spare neutrons laying
> about, but a good joke anyway, thanks[/color]

Not sure your point here; Oxygen has a mass number of 8 which
corresponds to 16 AMU's (8 protons, 8 neutrons). An average hydrogen
nucleus contains 1 proton and 0 neutrons.

Sure, you have some isotopes, and sure you even have some mass defect
effects going on due to the strong nuclear force, but all and all, I
think I'm right on this one, at least to the signifigant figures I
presented.

Otherwise, I might need to quit my day job. :)

Steve

"Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message
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> a new age kinda guy wrote:
>[color=green]
> > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:51:32 GMT, Steve Hay
> > <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>that must be the heavy water they were using in WW2 to produce "the[/color][/color][/color]
bomb"[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>:-)
> >>
> >>AMU of Oxygen is 16; AMU of Hydrogen is 1. :)[/color]
> >
> > Ture but no correct, unless you are counting by mass only. It takes
> > the full complent of protons and neutrons to make oxygen, otherwise
> > you would have several extra hydrogen and a few spare neutrons laying
> > about, but a good joke anyway, thanks[/color]
>
> Not sure your point here; Oxygen has a mass number of 8 which
> corresponds to 16 AMU's (8 protons, 8 neutrons). An average hydrogen
> nucleus contains 1 proton and 0 neutrons.
>
> Sure, you have some isotopes, and sure you even have some mass defect
> effects going on due to the strong nuclear force, but all and all, I
> think I'm right on this one, at least to the signifigant figures I
> presented.
>
> Otherwise, I might need to quit my day job. :)[/color]

I would! H20 = water, 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom = water, mass
has nothing to do with it.

I agree with you mass ratios but so what?

dechucka wrote:
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> I would! H20 = water, 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom = water,[/color]
mass[color=blue]
> has nothing to do with it.
>
> I agree with you mass ratios but so what?[/color]

I don't know many with the patience to count atoms when preparing
mixtures... Given tanks of equal pressure, volume and temperature, it
would take 8 tanks of oxygen and one of hydrogen to make the molar ratio
come out right.

Steve

"Steve Hay" <hays@nospam.alum.rpspami.edu> wrote in message
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> dechucka wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I would! H20 = water, 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom = water,[/color]
> mass[color=green]
> > has nothing to do with it.
> >
> > I agree with you mass ratios but so what?[/color]
>
> I don't know many with the patience to count atoms when preparing
> mixtures... Given tanks of equal pressure, volume and temperature, it
> would take 8 tanks of oxygen and one of hydrogen to make the molar ratio
> come out right.[/color]

so?