I just opened a small homebrewing shop inside our garden center store.
We were discussing some things that we are unsure about.
If an 18 year old kid comes in and wants to buy a 6 gallon carboy to
make a terrarium out of. Can I sell it to him?
Or how about a 6 gallon "stew pot" that a 16 year old wants to buy? If
he went to k-Mart he could get it without a problem, but is it illegal
if I sell it to him?
Drinking age here in Ohio is 21. Are there even laws covering age and
homebrewing?
I asked a local police officer and he had no idea.

Just take care. i read somewhere that a company selling hydroponic material
had it's material consfiscated and had a big fine because they advertised in
High Times and the add hinted that it could be used to grow pot. The same
way if you sell carboys and in your advertising it's said to be part of
brewing equipement, you can have some problems.

I would say just to use some common sense but the laws concernig alcohol in
USA are so stupid that common sence has notting to do with it so better be
safe than be sorry..
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"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:47:12 -0700, "jrprice" <jrprice@compassnet.com>
> wrote:
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> >i'm no lawyer, so give this as much credence as you see fit.
> >
> >seems to me that you should be ok to sell the carboy/pot to anyone.[/color][/color]
after[color=blue][color=green]
> >all, these things have multiple uses, and in and of themselves do not
> >represent possession of alcohol, which i believe is the basis of the law.
> >calls to mind when i was younger and the local "tobacco shops" would[/color][/color]
sell,[color=blue][color=green]
> >to anyone, these ornate "vases" made of ceramic and copper/steel tubing.
> >darned if i could ever figure out how you actually got the flowers in[/color][/color]
those[color=blue][color=green]
> >things. ;->
> >
> >bob p
> >[/color]
> <snip>
>
> hehehehe, I thank you all for the replies. We have a similar
> "semantics" problem with our "Hair Clips", you've seen them, an
> alligator clip with a bead and 2 strips of leather ending with another
> bead and a feather.
> Back in high school we called them "Roach Clips" everyone had one
> hanging from their rear-view mirror. Even the kids that didn't
> "smoke".
> We can't label them as "Roach Clips" or the police could raid us and
> confiscate them as drug paraphernalia. As "Hair Clips" they're ok.
>
> I was hoping someone knew the answer so I wouldn't have to hire a
> lawyer to answer it for me. As long as the local cops don't know the
> answer, I guess I'm in good shape,,,,,LOL
>
>
>[/color]

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:18:50 -0400, "Altair"
<sylvain.dupuis@NoSpam@videotron.ca> wrote:
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>Just take care. i read somewhere that a company selling hydroponic material
>had it's material consfiscated and had a big fine because they advertised in
>High Times and the add hinted that it could be used to grow pot. The same
>way if you sell carboys and in your advertising it's said to be part of
>brewing equipement, you can have some problems.
>
>I would say just to use some common sense but the laws concernig alcohol in
>USA are so stupid that common sence has notting to do with it so better be
>safe than be sorry..[/color]

I probably could have looked it up, and I still might. But isn't this
much more fun that listening to a bunch of stiff necked lawyers?
Thanks for your time guys.
I think I like this newsgroup.

"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I was hoping someone knew the answer so I wouldn't have to hire a
> lawyer to answer it for me. As long as the local cops don't know the
> answer, I guess I'm in good shape,,,,,LOL[/color]


Don't bet on it.

Things may go fine for years -- until someone gets a wild hair and talks
to the local prosecutor. They may not have a case in the world, but
you'll still have to defend yourself.

On the other hand, if you have some actual legal research done and
documented, you can legitimately claim that you did your homework and
sold the malt and hops in good faith.

Better yet, go talk to a few of the local prosecutors. That, at least,
should be free.


On the one hand, there are legitimate uses for malt (yummy!) and hops (a
good ingredient for a nice, calming tea). On the other hand, I wasn't
allowed to buy airplane glue (polystyrine plastic cement) when I was a
kid because some other kids chose to sniff the stuff for a cheap high.

Where do you draw the line? It's easy to see a non-beer use for hops
and malt, but not for brewer's yeast (yah, you can bake with it, but
baker's yeast works better for that).



Ray Drouillard

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:23:27 -0400, "Ray Drouillard"
<cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
>"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>[...]
>[color=green]
>> I was hoping someone knew the answer so I wouldn't have to hire a
>> lawyer to answer it for me. As long as the local cops don't know the
>> answer, I guess I'm in good shape,,,,,LOL[/color]
>
>
>Don't bet on it.
>
>Things may go fine for years -- until someone gets a wild hair and talks
>to the local prosecutor. They may not have a case in the world, but
>you'll still have to defend yourself.
>
>On the other hand, if you have some actual legal research done and
>documented, you can legitimately claim that you did your homework and
>sold the malt and hops in good faith.
>
>Better yet, go talk to a few of the local prosecutors. That, at least,
>should be free.
>
>
>On the one hand, there are legitimate uses for malt (yummy!) and hops (a
>good ingredient for a nice, calming tea). On the other hand, I wasn't
>allowed to buy airplane glue (polystyrine plastic cement) when I was a
>kid because some other kids chose to sniff the stuff for a cheap high.
>
>Where do you draw the line? It's easy to see a non-beer use for hops
>and malt, but not for brewer's yeast (yah, you can bake with it, but
>baker's yeast works better for that).
>
>
>
>Ray Drouillard[/color]


actually many bakers prefer brewers yeast.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:27:23 -0400, Jack Slopehead
<Jack_Sloan@jewbienation.com> wrote:
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>On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:23:27 -0400, "Ray Drouillard"
><cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>
>>"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:udrg80l3q39audalgo7h8iilm6k1hue5dj@4ax.com...
>>
>>[...]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I was hoping someone knew the answer so I wouldn't have to hire a
>>> lawyer to answer it for me. As long as the local cops don't know the
>>> answer, I guess I'm in good shape,,,,,LOL[/color]
>>
>>
>>Don't bet on it.
>>
>>Things may go fine for years -- until someone gets a wild hair and talks
>>to the local prosecutor. They may not have a case in the world, but
>>you'll still have to defend yourself.
>>
>>On the other hand, if you have some actual legal research done and
>>documented, you can legitimately claim that you did your homework and
>>sold the malt and hops in good faith.
>>
>>Better yet, go talk to a few of the local prosecutors. That, at least,
>>should be free.
>>
>>
>>On the one hand, there are legitimate uses for malt (yummy!) and hops (a
>>good ingredient for a nice, calming tea). On the other hand, I wasn't
>>allowed to buy airplane glue (polystyrine plastic cement) when I was a
>>kid because some other kids chose to sniff the stuff for a cheap high.
>>
>>Where do you draw the line? It's easy to see a non-beer use for hops
>>and malt, but not for brewer's yeast (yah, you can bake with it, but
>>baker's yeast works better for that).
>>
>>
>>
>>Ray Drouillard[/color]
>
>
>actually many bakers prefer brewers yeast.[/color]

Hehehe, I like Jack's answer.
Crystal malt is awesome on ice cream.
I think I might go down and talk to the prosecutor. Everyone else I
call always gives me the same answer, "I dunno".
Thanks guys,

Where in Ohio are you; I might need to use the garden supply excuse so I can buy
more home brew supplies!

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:06:14 GMT, Plumbum Blimp <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>I just opened a small homebrewing shop inside our garden center store.
>We were discussing some things that we are unsure about.
> If an 18 year old kid comes in and wants to buy a 6 gallon carboy to
>make a terrarium out of. Can I sell it to him?
>Or how about a 6 gallon "stew pot" that a 16 year old wants to buy? If
>he went to k-Mart he could get it without a problem, but is it illegal
>if I sell it to him?
>Drinking age here in Ohio is 21. Are there even laws covering age and
>homebrewing?
>I asked a local police officer and he had no idea.[/color]

"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 11:27:23 -0400, Jack Slopehead
> <Jack_Sloan@jewbienation.com> wrote:
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> >On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:23:27 -0400, "Ray Drouillard"
> ><cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >>"Plumbum Blimp" <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:udrg80l3q39audalgo7h8iilm6k1hue5dj@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>> I was hoping someone knew the answer so I wouldn't have to hire a
> >>> lawyer to answer it for me. As long as the local cops don't know the
> >>> answer, I guess I'm in good shape,,,,,LOL
> >>
> >>
> >>Don't bet on it.
> >>
> >>Things may go fine for years -- until someone gets a wild hair and talks
> >>to the local prosecutor. They may not have a case in the world, but
> >>you'll still have to defend yourself.
> >>
> >>On the other hand, if you have some actual legal research done and
> >>documented, you can legitimately claim that you did your homework and
> >>sold the malt and hops in good faith.
> >>
> >>Better yet, go talk to a few of the local prosecutors. That, at least,
> >>should be free.
> >>
> >>
> >>On the one hand, there are legitimate uses for malt (yummy!) and hops (a
> >>good ingredient for a nice, calming tea). On the other hand, I wasn't
> >>allowed to buy airplane glue (polystyrine plastic cement) when I was a
> >>kid because some other kids chose to sniff the stuff for a cheap high.
> >>
> >>Where do you draw the line? It's easy to see a non-beer use for hops
> >>and malt, but not for brewer's yeast (yah, you can bake with it, but
> >>baker's yeast works better for that).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ray Drouillard[/color]
> >
> >
> >actually many bakers prefer brewers yeast.[/color]
>
> Hehehe, I like Jack's answer.
> Crystal malt is awesome on ice cream.
> I think I might go down and talk to the prosecutor. Everyone else I
> call always gives me the same answer, "I dunno".
> Thanks guys,[/color]

Brewer's yeast is high in the B-complex vitamins (See? Beer's good for
you!). Years ago, before I started brewing, I bought some at a health food
store as a food or vita-drink additive. I would imagine that it's still
available in many health food/nutrition shops. I don't believe that they
need to see see ID to sell it. Call your local shop and see if the carry it.

Mysterioso

Mysterioso wrote:
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> Brewer's yeast is high in the B-complex vitamins (See? Beer's good for
> you!). Years ago, before I started brewing, I bought some at a health food
> store as a food or vita-drink additive. I would imagine that it's still
> available in many health food/nutrition shops. I don't believe that they
> need to see see ID to sell it. Call your local shop and see if the carry it.[/color]

That's used, dry, dead brewer's yeast..you couldn't use it to brew beer.

---------->Denny
--
Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.

Reply to denny_dot_g_dot_conn_at_ci_dot_eugene_dot_or_dot_us

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:09:45 -0400, Greyhound <x@ncweb.com> wrote:
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>Where in Ohio are you; I might need to use the garden supply excuse so I can buy
>more home brew supplies!
>[/color]
We're in East Rochester, a short distance from Minerva. If you stand
at the blinky light we are a stones throw to the north.
It's north-east on the map, not real far from Canton.
The store is called "Cindy's Plants -N- Stuff", we're listed at L.D.
Carlson's website.
I called the Columbiana County prosecutor and asked them,,,,,,
Reply was, "I dunno",,,, LOL

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>On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:06:14 GMT, Plumbum Blimp <sparrows_ink@nospam.yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>[color=green]
>>I just opened a small homebrewing shop inside our garden center store.
>>We were discussing some things that we are unsure about.
>> If an 18 year old kid comes in and wants to buy a 6 gallon carboy to
>>make a terrarium out of. Can I sell it to him?
>>Or how about a 6 gallon "stew pot" that a 16 year old wants to buy? If
>>he went to k-Mart he could get it without a problem, but is it illegal
>>if I sell it to him?
>>Drinking age here in Ohio is 21. Are there even laws covering age and
>>homebrewing?
>>I asked a local police officer and he had no idea.[/color][/color]