Conical Fermentor 'Fermenator' by Blichmann Engineering. 12.2 gallon
capacity. 100% stainless steel. 100% weld-free interior. No more
racking. Dump trub and take samples with ease, harvest yeast, and dry
hop. Simple to sanitize. Will not scratch. Weldless interior,
removable fittings, stainless steel lid, bottom dump valve, rotating
racking arm, low profile design, 90 deg bottom dump elbow, sealable
lid and carrying handle are all standard.


Ebay Auction is here:

[url]http://tinyurl.com/5qp48[/url]

Dan Benson wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>so then you agree that because you are unknown, you do not maintain a
>>business, your reputation is unknown, you are not invloved in brewing as far
>>as anyone can tell, you sell marchandise without warranty, to a buyer who
>>does not have the oppurtunity to actually see the product, over the
>>internet, you will do us a tremendous favor and let it go for $50 less than
>>*most* retail stores.
>>
>>gee whiz. wow. thanks mister!
>>
>>[/color]
>
>Well, gee, I guess you've never used ebay, or at least haven't
>bothered to check my feedback. I have 635 positive feedbacks out of
>.... 635. That's 100%. So out of 635 transactions 635 people have been
>happy with me. Can you prove that you are of similar reliability?
>[/color]


With all due respect to all parties Limited advertisements are allowed
and accepted. However,this medium is totally about the defined aspects
of brewing beer and does not in any way asociate with the affiliated
marketing or selling of any product or resource whatsoever. There is a
provision however, if you put the word ADV before your post, it is
recognized as such. So unless you are talking about beer, put the AVD
before and then we all know that you're just lookin for sales and/or money.

Nostrovia!!!!

Brewer Bob

(Don't get me started) ;)

Dan Benson wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>Now we are seeing more leaches like this spamming this group in hopes of
>>getting a nibble from some unsuspecting homebrewer.
>>
>>Ok, getting clothes and crappy little trinkets you put on the fireplace
>>mantle from these pricks on Ebay are one thing - those I can understand.
>> But homebrew equipment.... that's just sacrilege!![/color]
>
>
> Hey Jackass,
>
> Blichmann produces some of the best conicals, and this happens to be
> about $50 LESS than most retail places are charging. The damn thing is
> brand new. I am not making a dime off selling this.[/color]


Yeah, and some "auction" too. Why is it that you have your starting
price AND your 'Buy it Now' price the same amount? What you posted is
not an auction.

Nowhere did I question the quality of what it is you are "auctioning"
off. Re-read the post.

Mark

"danno" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:2pnj7dFmkgfkU1@uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> Ricky, I agree that Ebay is not a cost effective source of resold (new)
> items. I will say that I have found many tremendous used items at great
> deals. Most of the Swagelok fittings for my brewery come from Ebay at
> about ten cents on the dollar (they are new but surplus items). I also
> picked up the entire Brewing Techniques series for $25.
>
> There are deals on Ebay but you have to be patient.
>
> Burp,
> -Dan
>
>[/color]
I agree with you 100%, and was by no means saying "don't buy on eBay"...I
just didn't want to have someone buy something that was in no way a 'good
deal' in my opinion. I buy far too much on ebay, at a GOOD deal, heh heh.

Ricky




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Dan Benson wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>>so then you agree that because you are unknown, you do not maintain a
>>business, your reputation is unknown, you are not invloved in brewing as far
>>as anyone can tell, you sell marchandise without warranty, to a buyer who
>>does not have the oppurtunity to actually see the product, over the
>>internet, you will do us a tremendous favor and let it go for $50 less than
>>*most* retail stores.
>>
>>gee whiz. wow. thanks mister![/color]
>
>
> Well, gee, I guess you've never used ebay, or at least haven't
> bothered to check my feedback. I have 635 positive feedbacks out of
> ..... 635. That's 100%. So out of 635 transactions 635 people have been
> happy with me. Can you prove that you are of similar reliability?[/color]

Heh, heh. Hell, I've never sold a single thing on e-Bay, and you're
telling us that you've gotten _feedback_ on 635 transactions, and I
presume that unless feedback is mandatory, that you've probably had a
significant number of additional transactions for which there is no
feedback. I'm not as stupid as I look. ;-) It sounds to me like you
are running an actual business on e-Bay, which is your prerogative, but
I personally condemn your post for what it clearly is: SPAM. God, could
you imagine what usernet would be like if everyone with a business
decided to post an ad even just once a year? It wouldn't be worth
using!!! So please get your lame, spamming ass off of this group. No
one with any sense is going to support a spammer, and that's exactly
what you appear to be. I find it really hard to believe that someone
who has peddles stuff on eBay as much as you have is trying to sell this
brand new unused item without making a dime. I have therefore sent a
complaint to eBay reporting this as SPAM. For someone who uses their
service as much as you claim, you ought to know that spamming is a
violation of eBay policy and terms of use. If you spam this group
again, I'm going to encourage every single member of these groups to
each file a complaint with eBay, and maybe you won't have anything to
advertise here after that. So, please find another way to sell your stuff.

Bill Velek -- remove the "--NO-SPAM--" from my email address

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> Conical Fermentor 'Fermenator' by Blichmann Engineering. 12.2 gallon
> capacity. 100% stainless steel. 100% weld-free interior. No more
> racking. Dump trub and take samples with ease, harvest yeast, and dry
> hop. Simple to sanitize. Will not scratch. Weldless interior,
> removable fittings, stainless steel lid, bottom dump valve, rotating
> racking arm, low profile design, 90 deg bottom dump elbow, sealable
> lid and carrying handle are all standard.
>
>
> Ebay Auction is here:
>
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/5qp48[/url][/color]

That is not any cheaper than retail ... not $1.

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> That is not any cheaper than retail ... not $1.


Probably some geek that paid for one of those "Make millions at home
from E-Bay auctions" programs trying to get revenge on a gullible
public.

A couple of carboy caps and stands, invert 2 6.5 gallon carboys, and
you have the same capacity and functionality for much less money.

Mark Rogowski <mmrogowski@spam-hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<ch9ld6$edr$1@titan.uwinnipeg.ca>...[color=blue]
> Dan Benson wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>Now we are seeing more leaches like this spamming this group in hopes of
> >>getting a nibble from some unsuspecting homebrewer.
> >>
> >>Ok, getting clothes and crappy little trinkets you put on the fireplace
> >>mantle from these pricks on Ebay are one thing - those I can understand.
> >> But homebrew equipment.... that's just sacrilege!![/color]
> >
> >
> > Hey Jackass,
> >
> > Blichmann produces some of the best conicals, and this happens to be
> > about $50 LESS than most retail places are charging. The damn thing is
> > brand new. I am not making a dime off selling this.[/color]
>
>
> Yeah, and some "auction" too. Why is it that you have your starting
> price AND your 'Buy it Now' price the same amount? What you posted is
> not an auction.
>
> Nowhere did I question the quality of what it is you are "auctioning"
> off. Re-read the post.
>
> Mark[/color]


If it is brand new, then why did you buy it in the first place?

And frankly, citing some 600+ positive reviews, and then calling
someone a jackass because they wisely point out this deal is a rip-off
strongly suggests that either your reviews are rigged, or your
satisfied customers are idiots.

Most local homebrew shops will offer a steep discount if a customer
walks in and asks them to order such a toy.

If it is really a spare item you need to get rid of, then sell it at a
reasonable price.

I would like to quote Texas Brews. It is the philosophy that I live by.

[url]www.texanbrew.com[/url]
"Brewing beer is neither complicated nor expensive. It's the responsibility
of the brewer to make it as complicated and expensive as their wife's will
allow. Great beer is made in small pots in a kitchen; our beer is made in
larger pots in the garage. People have been brewing spectacular beers for
thousands of years; we've been brewing mediocre beers for a few months.
Since we've been brewing for months, we're naturally experts. Read on,
you'll see we have all the answers -- its just the questions that have us
confused."

I have personally spent several hundred dollars buying equipment to make my
favorite mediocre beer and have recently spent a few hundred dollars on
e-bay buying more toys for home brewing. Simply put, it has kept me off the
street for some time updating my system and brewing bigger and better
mediocre beer. Personally I think saved a few dollars buying the stuff on
e-bay. If not, don't blow my illusion but most of all, don't tell my wife.







"Dan Benson" <danielbenson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8650e5d.0409010702.2ccadd3f@posting.google.com...[color=blue]
> Conical Fermentor 'Fermenator' by Blichmann Engineering. 12.2 gallon
> capacity. 100% stainless steel. 100% weld-free interior. No more
> racking. Dump trub and take samples with ease, harvest yeast, and dry
> hop. Simple to sanitize. Will not scratch. Weldless interior,
> removable fittings, stainless steel lid, bottom dump valve, rotating
> racking arm, low profile design, 90 deg bottom dump elbow, sealable
> lid and carrying handle are all standard.
>
>
> Ebay Auction is here:
>
> [url]http://tinyurl.com/5qp48[/url][/color]

> Heh, heh. Hell, I've never sold a single thing on e-Bay, and you're[color=blue]
> telling us that you've gotten _feedback_ on 635 transactions, and I
> presume that unless feedback is mandatory, that you've probably had a
> significant number of additional transactions for which there is no
> feedback. I'm not as stupid as I look. ;-)[/color]

Um, are you saying that all of those 'other' transactions are from
people that aren't happy with what I sold them? You'd think they'd
leave feedback if they were unhappy.

[color=blue]
> I personally condemn your post for what it clearly is: SPAM. God, could
> you imagine what usernet would be like if everyone with a business
> decided to post an ad even just once a year? It wouldn't be worth
> using!!! So please get your lame, spamming ass off of this group.[/color]

The posting started with a "FA:" indicator. You don't have to read it,
and if you do, that's your problem. You don't own this newsgroup; it's
a public forum and I can post whatever I want, whenever I want. Feel
free to *****. I've posted two items for sale in this news group over
the years so I don't feel I am abusing this forum ( I don't give a
**** if you think otherwise). My 'spamming ass'? Screw you.
[color=blue]
> one with any sense is going to support a spammer, and that's exactly
> what you appear to be. I find it really hard to believe that someone
> who has peddles stuff on eBay as much as you have is trying to sell this
> brand new unused item without making a dime.[/color]

I sell some electronics on ebay. Yes I make some money on that. I do
not make it a habit of selling brewing equipment there. This is a one
off on a brand new item and is at cost. You won't find one of these
for less than $500. I am not making anything on this - not that I give
a rip if you believe that or not. That's your perogative.

[color=blue]
> complaint to eBay reporting this as SPAM. For someone who uses their
> service as much as you claim, you ought to know that spamming is a
> violation of eBay policy and terms of use. If you spam this group
> again, I'm going to encourage every single member of these groups to
> each file a complaint with eBay, and maybe you won't have anything to
> advertise here after that. So, please find another way to sell your stuff.
>[/color]

Again, you don't own this newsgroup. It's a public forum. You can
complain to ebay all you want. I am not SENDING YOU or anyone else
unsolicited emails. This is a posting to a public forum - you don't
have to read any "FA:" posts if you choose not to. I can post a
million messages about my auctions here if I want to. Ebay has no
problem with that. This will however be the last. Not because I'm
'afraid' of your empty threat, but because I don't make it a point of
selling brewing stuff.

Get over it and move on.