Hey there!

This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not a
rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be good
wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if for
brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?

Thanks for any imput!

Elliott

Oxygen and moisture generally will degrade your malt to the point where you
can't use it anymore. Old or bad malt will create anything from a slight
cidery taste to more serious problems like exploding beer bottles. In this
case I would recommend investing in some new malt since you obviously have
had a lot of both oxygen and moisture in it.

Cheers!
Brad

"MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Hey there!
>
> This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not a
> rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be good
> wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if for
> brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
>
> Thanks for any imput!
>
> Elliott[/color]

MotoxXx wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Hey there!
>
> This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not a
> rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be good
> wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if for
> brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
>
> Thanks for any imput!
>
> Elliott[/color]

May not be as good as it once was, but it should be fine. Go for it.

-------->Denny
--
Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.

Reply to denny_dot_g_dot_conn_at_ci_dot_eugene_dot_or_dot_us

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 21:49:57 -0400, <beersmith@NOSPAM.beersmith.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Oxygen and moisture generally will degrade your malt to the point where you
> can't use it anymore. Old or bad malt will create anything from a slight
> cidery taste to more serious problems like exploding beer bottles. In this
> case I would recommend investing in some new malt since you obviously have
> had a lot of both oxygen and moisture in it.[/color]

How can old malt make your bottles explode?


John.

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I would be worried about mold spores...

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"MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Hey there!
>
> This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not a
> rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be good
> wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if for
> brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
>
> Thanks for any imput!
>
> Elliott[/color]

That can be handled by boiling the wort.


Ray


"Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I would be worried about mold spores...
>
> --
>
> "MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
> news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > Hey there!
> >
> > This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> > malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> > pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> > Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not[/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green]
> > rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be[/color][/color]
good[color=blue][color=green]
> > wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if[/color][/color]
for[color=blue][color=green]
> > brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> > use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> > no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
> >
> > Thanks for any imput!
> >
> > Elliott[/color]
>
>[/color]

I guess that would be true, although you would have to be careful about
nothing powdery flying around. If the malt is already hard, it wouldn't be
to bad to control.

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"Ray Drouillard" <cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bnhbfd$1114cq$1@ID-193109.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> That can be handled by boiling the wort.
>
>
> Ray
>
>
> "Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:92Tmb.3365$CE2.3432369@news2.news.adelphia.net...[color=green]
> > I would be worried about mold spores...
> >
> > --
> >
> > "MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
> > news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Hey there!
> > >
> > > This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> > > malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> > > pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> > > Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be[/color][/color]
> good[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if[/color][/color]
> for[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> > > use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> > > no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any imput!
> > >
> > > Elliott[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

The mold will be destroyed, but the off-flavors may still linger... I'd use
it & rack the wort onto a yeast cake - or dry yeast. Not much sense in
throwing away extract on a suspicion. It may be the best batch of beer
yet... Use it up & spend as little as possible on the rest of the
ingredients. If you use it make sure it has completely dissolved in the
boil before adding the hops - that way your bitterness calculations will be
correct.

I once had a pound of rock hard DME that I used in starters - never had a
problem.

Good luck!
Mick


Ray Drouillard <cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bnhbfd$1114cq$1@ID-193109.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
> That can be handled by boiling the wort.
>
>
> Ray
>
>
> "Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:92Tmb.3365$CE2.3432369@news2.news.adelphia.net...[color=green]
> > I would be worried about mold spores...
> >
> > --
> >
> > "MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
> > news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
> > > Hey there!
> > >
> > > This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> > > malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> > > pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> > > Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be[/color][/color]
> good[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if[/color][/color]
> for[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> > > use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> > > no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any imput!
> > >
> > > Elliott[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<RTYmb.3436$CE2.3499183@news2.news.adelphia.net>...[color=blue]
> I guess that would be true, although you would have to be careful about
> nothing powdery flying around. If the malt is already hard, it wouldn't be
> to bad to control.
>
> --
>
> "Ray Drouillard" <cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:bnhbfd$1114cq$1@ID-193109.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=green]
> > That can be handled by boiling the wort.
> >
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> > "Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:92Tmb.3365$CE2.3432369@news2.news.adelphia.net...[color=darkred]
> > > I would be worried about mold spores...
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > "MotoxXx" <nospam@my.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ep9jpvcpi2hbl0fupomr2esiuuqj5l7v0f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hey there!
> > > >
> > > > This is actually a 2 parter - I purchases some really good Holland
> > > > malt about 2 years ago - 50 Lbs worth! I ended up puttng about 15
> > > > pounds worth in a 5 gallon container and tightly putting the top on.
> > > > Well, abviously not tight enough. Moisture got to it and it is not[/color][/color]
> a[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > rock! I chipped some off and boiled it and got what seemed to be[/color][/color]
> good[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > wort (smelled great and tasted good) but before I actually use if[/color][/color]
> for[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > brewing I thought I'd ask the group: Is there a reason I shouldn't
> > > > use it? Does malt age and go bad? Is there a problem in that it is
> > > > no longer a powder but a hard hunk of malt?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any imput!
> > > >
> > > > Elliott
> > >
> > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[/color][/color][/color]

I'm with denny, I would say go ahead and use it!
I would not use it in anything delicate like a pils or a pale ale.
Use it for something Hoppy or dark...just in case.
By all means make beer with it and don't feel guilty!

Cheers, Bob

Kennywood Brewing Supply

Visit our website @
[url]http://www.kennywoodbrew.com/[/url]
[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> >[/color][/color]

I doubt it would be anymore severe a problem than with bread going bad
in the building where you brew.

Or making sake even though you've never had it before, and the
commercial example you do buy you find to be horrid. Not that I did
that this week or something.

"Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<RTYmb.3436$CE2.3499183@news2.news.adelphia.net>...[color=blue]
> I guess that would be true, although you would have to be careful about
> nothing powdery flying around. If the malt is already hard, it wouldn't be
> to bad to control.
>
> --
>
> "Ray Drouillard" <cosmicNospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:bnhbfd$1114cq$1@ID-193109.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=green]
> > That can be handled by boiling the wort.
> >
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> > "Hollywood Muscle" <HMStarpower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:92Tmb.3365$CE2.3432369@news2.news.adelphia.net...[color=darkred]
> > > I would be worried about mold spores...
> > >
> > > --
> > >[/color][/color][/color]