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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Ed Edelenbos
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
earliest.

Ed

Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello there,
> I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
> yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start the
> incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left it
> out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
> hasn't changed from last night.
> What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't want to
> use dry yeast for my wit.
> all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
> Can someone please help me?!!!
> Thanks
>
>[/color]


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Roger Grimmond
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Uh...no it doesn't

"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
news:3FA90589.20404@spameasy.net...[color=blue]
> I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
> day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
> be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
> earliest.
>
> Ed
>
> Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=green]
> > Hello there,
> > I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
> > yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left[/color][/color]
it[color=blue][color=green]
> > out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
> > hasn't changed from last night.
> > What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't[/color][/color]
want to[color=blue][color=green]
> > use dry yeast for my wit.
> > all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
> > Can someone please help me?!!!
> > Thanks
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
> --
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> To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
>[/color]


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Theodore Kloba
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

I just bought some WY smack packs over the weekend, and also noticed
that the instructions no longer say to allow the extra time. I'm going
to do it anyway.

Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
> Uh...no it doesn't
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA90589.20404@spameasy.net...
>[color=green]
>>I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
>>day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
>>be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
>>earliest.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>Roger Grimmond wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hello there,
>>>I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
>>>yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start[/color]
>>[/color]
> the
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left[/color]
>>[/color]
> it
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
>>>hasn't changed from last night.
>>>What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't[/color]
>>[/color]
> want to
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>use dry yeast for my wit.
>>>all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
>>>Can someone please help me?!!!
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>--
>> The spam finally got to me.
>>To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
>>[/color]
>
>
>[/color]


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Ed Edelenbos
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

As Homer Simpson would say... "D'Oh!"

I'm sure they used to. The rest applies... you'd be better off making
a starter and brewing on Sat. Maybe just give it some more time to see
if it'll swell on it's own.

Ed (just the messenger)

Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
> Uh...no it doesn't
>
> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA90589.20404@spameasy.net...
>[color=green]
>>I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
>>day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
>>be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
>>earliest.
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>Roger Grimmond wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hello there,
>>>I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
>>>yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start[/color]
>>[/color]
> the
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left[/color]
>>[/color]
> it
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
>>>hasn't changed from last night.
>>>What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't[/color]
>>[/color]
> want to
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>use dry yeast for my wit.
>>>all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
>>>Can someone please help me?!!!
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>>--
>> The spam finally got to me.
>>To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
>>[/color]
>
>
>[/color]


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Roger Grimmond
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Thanks for your input Ed. I'm just worried it won't swell. This is the first
time using liquid yeast and I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to
make a starter. I know there's instructions on the package.
Should I wait until Sat to see if it swells?
Should I make a starter today and brew today?
"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
news:3FA918AC.30706@spameasy.net...[color=blue]
> As Homer Simpson would say... "D'Oh!"
>
> I'm sure they used to. The rest applies... you'd be better off making
> a starter and brewing on Sat. Maybe just give it some more time to see
> if it'll swell on it's own.
>
> Ed (just the messenger)
>
> Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=green]
> > Uh...no it doesn't
> >
> > "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FA90589.20404@spameasy.net...
> >[color=darkred]
> >>I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
> >>day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
> >>be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
> >>earliest.
> >>
> >>Ed
> >>
> >>Roger Grimmond wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello there,
> >>>I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
> >>>yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start
> >>[/color]
> > the
> >[color=darkred]
> >>>incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left
> >>[/color]
> > it
> >[color=darkred]
> >>>out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but[/color][/color][/color]
it[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>hasn't changed from last night.
> >>>What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't
> >>[/color]
> > want to
> >[color=darkred]
> >>>use dry yeast for my wit.
> >>>all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
> >>>Can someone please help me?!!!
> >>>Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >> The spam finally got to me.
> >>To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
> >>[/color]
> >
> >
> >[/color]
>
>
> --
> The spam finally got to me.
> To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Denny Conn
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Thanks for your input Ed. I'm just worried it won't swell. This is the first
> time using liquid yeast and I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to
> make a starter. I know there's instructions on the package.
> Should I wait until Sat to see if it swells?
> Should I make a starter today and brew today?[/color]

If it was me, I'd wait until it swells, then make a starter, and a
couple days later I'd brew. You can rush the process if you want, but
you'll have less than optimal results. Do you want to do all that work
brewing and then blow it because you rushed the yeast?

----------->Denny

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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Ken Anderson
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

"Denny Conn" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3FA92874.4A379D67@privacy.net...[color=blue]
> Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > Thanks for your input Ed. I'm just worried it won't swell. This is the[/color][/color]
first[color=blue][color=green]
> > time using liquid yeast and I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to
> > make a starter. I know there's instructions on the package.
> > Should I wait until Sat to see if it swells?
> > Should I make a starter today and brew today?[/color]
>
> If it was me, I'd wait until it swells, then make a starter, and a
> couple days later I'd brew. You can rush the process if you want, but
> you'll have less than optimal results. Do you want to do all that work
> brewing and then blow it because you rushed the yeast?
>
> ----------->Denny
>
> --
> Life begins at 60 - 1.060, that is.
>
> Reply to denny_at_projectoneaudio_dot_com
>[/color]
And along those lines, don't worry about it not swelling. I can just about
guarantee you that it will poof up. Wouldn't be surprised if by Thursday
you'll see it underway. Let us know. Incidently, I think everybody goes
through your angst when they start using smack packs. Alas, all will be
well! ; )
Ken


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
DiGiTaLRoDeNt
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Thanks for the link .. I used to brew alot over 8 years ago and am now
just getting back into it.
This link will be a nice resource as to what is new that I don't know
about.

Thanks a bunch
Fran
St Pete FL


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:01:13 GMT, "Ken Anderson" <praise@brewdha.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>"Steven Hay" <hays@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:Fdfqb.2075$E9.1546@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...[color=green]
>> What's wrong with just activating it in some warm water like you do with
>> dry yeast? (Never used a smack pack)
>>[/color]
>Check this out:
>[url]http://www.leebrewery.com/Yeastgui.htm[/url]
>
>[/color]

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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Dennis Montey
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

By smacking, are you sure that the inner blister was ruptured and that
the contents were mixed by kneading for a short time. I have found
those inner packages more difficult to burst as of late. Also check the
date on the package. Allow an additional day for every month after the
manufacture date to allow for full expansion of the pack. Since you
purchased this pack in May, assuming it was fresh then, allow5 days.
You can speed the process by gently warming the pack, I set it near a
window in direct sunlight. You can also wrap it in a warm moist towel.
Just be careful to not cook the yeasties.

Dennis

Roger Grimmond wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hello there,
>I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
>yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start the
>incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left it
>out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
>hasn't changed from last night.
>What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't want to
>use dry yeast for my wit.
>all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
>Can someone please help me?!!!
>Thanks
>
>
>
>[/color]

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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Brian
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Is it possible to overpressurize the Wyeast containers? I have had
most of them swell completely in less than a day (very fresh yeast).
If you let them go too long, cant he pressure harm the yeast, or even
pop the pouch?

"David M. Taylor" <dmtaylor@SPAM.geocities.SUCKS.com> wrote in message news:<10gg8o7rvu74999@corp.supernews.com>...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > Should I wait until Sat to see if it swells?[/color][/color]
>
> If your yeast is so dead that it takes a week or so to swell, then it might
> still be usable, but it's not in great shape. When it finally does swell,
> be sure to create a yeast starter with it, just to make sure you have enough
> yeast to get the job done. Mix a half cup of DME in a cup of water, boil
> for a few minutes, then when cool, add the yeast, cover it, and wait until
> the yeast colony starts making good amounts of CO2 again. Then you should
> have plenty of yeast cells for pitching.
>
> Good luck.[/color]
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