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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Ed Edelenbos
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

Either... give it time to swell and then make a starter or make the
starter and pitch and let it work.

Either way, the starter will take at least a day. That goes for new
fresh smack-packs... they should be smacked (at least) a day before you
plan to brew. They will work as is, but they work better with a starter.

I'd give it some more time to swell but tomorrow, I'd make a starter
whether it had swelled or not.

A starter is simple... a couple ounces of lme or dme in a cup of
water, boil for a 5-10 minutes, and cool to 70F, then pitch yeast.
There are optimum ways to do it but basically you are making a tiny wort
to grow yeast. I think the optimum og for a starter is somewhere in the
range of 1.035-1.040, but if it is between 1.025 and 1.045, it will give
a medium for the yeast to start and multiply. The point is to make more
(working) yeast cells to go into the 5 gallon wort.

And, I (as can most brewers) can relate to the upset of a snag in a
brewday...

If you have ingredients for another batch, you could make it and use the
dry yeast.
Ed

Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
> Thanks for your input Ed. I'm just worried it won't swell. This is the first
> time using liquid yeast and I'm not sure what to do. I don't know how to
> make a starter. I know there's instructions on the package.
> Should I wait until Sat to see if it swells?
> Should I make a starter today and brew today?
> "Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA918AC.30706@spameasy.net...
>[color=green]
>>As Homer Simpson would say... "D'Oh!"
>>
>>I'm sure they used to. The rest applies... you'd be better off making
>>a starter and brewing on Sat. Maybe just give it some more time to see
>>if it'll swell on it's own.
>>
>>Ed (just the messenger)
>>
>>Roger Grimmond wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Uh...no it doesn't
>>>
>>>"Ed Edelenbos" <eded@spameasy.net> wrote in message
>>>news:3FA90589.20404@spameasy.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think if you read the instructions, it says that it may take up to a
>>>>day per month of storage for it to swell. In this case, you'd probably
>>>>be best off making a starter and not planning to brew until Sat. at the
>>>>earliest.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>Roger Grimmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello there,
>>>>>I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
>>>>>yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start
>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left
>>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but
>>>>[/color][/color]
> it
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>hasn't changed from last night.
>>>>>What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't
>>>>
>>>want to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>use dry yeast for my wit.
>>>>>all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
>>>>>Can someone please help me?!!!
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>> The spam finally got to me.
>>>>To email me, change "spam" to "speak"
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>>>
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Steven Hay
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

What's wrong with just activating it in some warm water like you do with
dry yeast? (Never used a smack pack)


Roger Grimmond wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello there,
> I bought a wyeast smack pack last May and kept it in the fridge until
> yesterday. I'm making a Belgian with and read the instructions to start the
> incubation process. I 'smacked' the pack last night around 8pm and left it
> out on the counter. I was expecting for it to be totally swollen, but it
> hasn't changed from last night.
> What did I do wrong? I was hoping to brew this afternoon and I don't want to
> use dry yeast for my wit.
> all I have in the fridge is Safbrew s-33 and Safale S-04.
> Can someone please help me?!!!
> Thanks
>
>[/color]

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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
Ken Anderson
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

"Steven Hay" <hays@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:Fdfqb.2075$E9.1546@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...[color=blue]
> What's wrong with just activating it in some warm water like you do with
> dry yeast? (Never used a smack pack)
>[/color]
Check this out:
[url]http://www.leebrewery.com/Yeastgui.htm[/url]


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Old 12-05-2004, 09:40 PM
David M. Taylor
 
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Re: problem with smack-pack

"Brian" <briansico@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5cff2db.0407291044.3e35d4cd@posting.google.com...[color=blue]
> Is it possible to overpressurize the Wyeast containers? I have had
> most of them swell completely in less than a day (very fresh yeast).
> If you let them go too long, cant he pressure harm the yeast, or even
> pop the pouch?[/color]

No, I've never heard of a Wyeast pouch exploding. They'll get plenty big
and pressurized, but I believe they are designed to prevent explosion,
unless you throw them against a brick wall or something. Pressure won't do
anything to hurt the yeast. It's not a problem.

--
Dave
"Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
Genesis, 1973-ish


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