I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and don't
want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What do
you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches

This shows all the components of system 1
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[/url]

This shows all the components of system 2
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[/url]

>>>They are both pretty much the same. Only difference is that one used
plastic and the other used SS. You cant force carb the beer as the kits
come. So you still have to wait the 2 weeks (or however long you wait) to
naturally carbonate your beer. If you are trying to save $$ go with the
plastic. With the SS one, you are just paying for the metal and the wood
stand. The plastic one is big enough to fit a batch.

Hope this helps,
Joe

"mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04...[color=blue]
> I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and don't
> want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What do
> you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
> appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
>
> This shows all the components of system 1
>[/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&[/url]
st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[color=blue]
>
> This shows all the components of system 2
>[/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&[/url]
st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[color=blue]
>
>[/color]

True. I wonder exactly how many uses I'll get out of those bottles. The
Williams Catalog says six batches or so? I guess the plastic one would be
easier. I am bottle condition right now anyways.

Thanks Joe.

"Joe" <romeroj@deucewild.com> wrote in message
news:103vnn5hq2tm2cb@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >>>They are both pretty much the same. Only difference is that one used[/color][/color]
> plastic and the other used SS. You cant force carb the beer as the kits
> come. So you still have to wait the 2 weeks (or however long you wait) to
> naturally carbonate your beer. If you are trying to save $$ go with the
> plastic. With the SS one, you are just paying for the metal and the wood
> stand. The plastic one is big enough to fit a batch.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Joe
>
> "mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04...[color=green]
> > I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and[/color][/color]
don't[color=blue][color=green]
> > want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What[/color][/color]
do[color=blue][color=green]
> > you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
> > appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 1
> >[/color]
>[/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&[/url][color=blue]
> st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[color=green]
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 2
> >[/color]
>[/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&[/url][color=blue]
> st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[color=green]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

I have the Philtap and it works great. It is easy to clean and easy
to tap.

After saying that, purchasing it was a huge mistake. When you start
doing the math on the inital cost and the cost of the mini-kegs, a
full blown corny system is not that far out of reach. The Philtap is
$50. The minis will eventually need replacement due to rust and wear
on the inside coating. The tap-a-draft is plastic, enough said. The
mini-kegs are $7-8 each and it takes 3-4 to hold a five gallon batch.
$8x4=$32, which will buy a recondtioned corny and all parts are
replaceable. I know the start-up is more for the cornies which is why
I went with the mini-kegs. Hold out for a corny system, you will be
much happier.







"mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04>...[color=blue]
> I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and don't
> want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What do
> you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
> appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
>
> This shows all the components of system 1
> [url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[/url]
>
> This shows all the components of system 2
> [url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[/url][/color]

I do want to get a Soda keg system going but am going to wait until I have
room to put another fridge. I think until then I may purchase the Tap a
draft for a temporary basis($80 with extra bottles not too bad), I don't
like bottling and usually fill 1 liter flip top bottles for my smaller
batches. I guess I would still have to bottle condition. Does anyone have
any personal experience with the the Tap a Draft system, like how long will
a bottle last in the fridge?, Do they bust frequently? etc.

Thanks

"Bakechad" <bakechad@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:a9c42696.0403011415.56ac0716@posting.google.com...[color=blue]
> I have the Philtap and it works great. It is easy to clean and easy
> to tap.
>
> After saying that, purchasing it was a huge mistake. When you start
> doing the math on the inital cost and the cost of the mini-kegs, a
> full blown corny system is not that far out of reach. The Philtap is
> $50. The minis will eventually need replacement due to rust and wear
> on the inside coating. The tap-a-draft is plastic, enough said. The
> mini-kegs are $7-8 each and it takes 3-4 to hold a five gallon batch.
> $8x4=$32, which will buy a recondtioned corny and all parts are
> replaceable. I know the start-up is more for the cornies which is why
> I went with the mini-kegs. Hold out for a corny system, you will be
> much happier.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message[/color]
news:<nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and[/color][/color]
don't[color=blue][color=green]
> > want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What[/color][/color]
do[color=blue][color=green]
> > you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
> > appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 1
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[/url][color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 2
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[/url]

I have never had the tap-a-draft. I would still suggest looking at
the philtap. If you like the plastic bottles, you can drill the caps
of 2/3 liter bottles and use bung plugs and the philtap will fit. The
philtap is all stainless steel and will last for ever. Also, Dan
Listermann who makes them provides great support. He also a big
contributor on the newsgroups.





On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:33:24 GMT, "mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>I do want to get a Soda keg system going but am going to wait until I have
>room to put another fridge. I think until then I may purchase the Tap a
>draft for a temporary basis($80 with extra bottles not too bad), I don't
>like bottling and usually fill 1 liter flip top bottles for my smaller
>batches. I guess I would still have to bottle condition. Does anyone have
>any personal experience with the the Tap a Draft system, like how long will
>a bottle last in the fridge?, Do they bust frequently? etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>"Bakechad" <bakechad@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>news:a9c42696.0403011415.56ac0716@posting.google.com...[color=green]
>> I have the Philtap and it works great. It is easy to clean and easy
>> to tap.
>>
>> After saying that, purchasing it was a huge mistake. When you start
>> doing the math on the inital cost and the cost of the mini-kegs, a
>> full blown corny system is not that far out of reach. The Philtap is
>> $50. The minis will eventually need replacement due to rust and wear
>> on the inside coating. The tap-a-draft is plastic, enough said. The
>> mini-kegs are $7-8 each and it takes 3-4 to hold a five gallon batch.
>> $8x4=$32, which will buy a recondtioned corny and all parts are
>> replaceable. I know the start-up is more for the cornies which is why
>> I went with the mini-kegs. Hold out for a corny system, you will be
>> much happier.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message[/color]
>news:<nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04>...[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and[/color][/color]
>don't[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What[/color][/color]
>do[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
>> > appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
>> >
>> > This shows all the components of system 1
>> >[/color][/color]
>[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[/url][color=green][color=darkred]
>> >
>> > This shows all the components of system 2
>> >[/color][/color]
>[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[/url]
>[/color]

i use the tap-a-draft and i really like it ...i have never used the philtap,
but it is on my want list...i think either is a good deal...but i really
want to go with a corni system soon...but cooling it is a problem with
limited space..any suggestions on that

john


"Bakechad" <bakechad@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:a9c42696.0403011415.56ac0716@posting.google.com...[color=blue]
> I have the Philtap and it works great. It is easy to clean and easy
> to tap.
>
> After saying that, purchasing it was a huge mistake. When you start
> doing the math on the inital cost and the cost of the mini-kegs, a
> full blown corny system is not that far out of reach. The Philtap is
> $50. The minis will eventually need replacement due to rust and wear
> on the inside coating. The tap-a-draft is plastic, enough said. The
> mini-kegs are $7-8 each and it takes 3-4 to hold a five gallon batch.
> $8x4=$32, which will buy a recondtioned corny and all parts are
> replaceable. I know the start-up is more for the cornies which is why
> I went with the mini-kegs. Hold out for a corny system, you will be
> much happier.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "mpomario" <mpomario@netscape.net> wrote in message[/color]
news:<nvO%b.424290$na.813219@attbi_s04>...[color=blue][color=green]
> > I was thinking of buying one of these set ups only for temporary and[/color][/color]
don't[color=blue][color=green]
> > want to spend much but want something that won't ruin my batches. What[/color][/color]
do[color=blue][color=green]
> > you guys think? Any suggestions or words of experience would be greatly
> > appreciated. BTW I usually brew 2.5 to 5 Gallon batches
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 1
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=92[/url][color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > This shows all the components of system 2
> >[/color][/color]
[url]http://www.williamsbrewing.com/AB1605000/showprod.cfm?&DID=7&User_ID=284661&st=8981&st2=38517306&st3=-90242236&CATID=30&ObjectGroup_ID=56[/url]