[hevimees]

I recently tried the Wheat Beer from Munton's Connoisseur Range. It was a huge disappointment since it was almost tasteless, kind of like drinking Lapin Kulta (a Finnish beer famous for not having any flavour or taste worth mentioning).

Now I'm thinking of trying the better kits from Munton's Gold Range and Premium Gold Range. Has anyone tried these and are they any good?

If I end up bying one, how should I make it? I've understood that the instructions specifically say that you shouldn't boil the wort since it'll disturb the delicate balance of hops in the extract.

I can understand your dissappointment in Munton,, to a greater/lesser degree
I have found the same for most other manufactuers as well. I cant comment
on their "no boil" instructions, I suspect it may only apply to
flavour/aroma hop characteristics.

For quick and dirty replacement of my stocks I still use extract kits,, with
some additions. Just using the kit tastes thin, flavourless and without
character. I usually add 1kg or more of a light unhopped liquid extract to
the batch,, and yess I boil it mostly for sanitary reasons,, and if
flavour and aroma are required, I add a small amount of hops if I am
familiar with the style. I use a 9 liter pot and boil around 5 liters of
liquid,, ao you dont really need a giant pot for the task. curiously
though, I have also tried using two Geordie kits once, and it still turned
out thin and tasteless,, go figure!

Good luck, and best wishes on your brew. Even a thin tasetless beer is
great when you aint got no BASS
"hevimees" <hevimees.1v1o0l@usenet.brewtank.com> wrote in message
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> I recently tried the Wheat Beer from Munton's Connoisseur Range. It was
> a huge disappointment since it was almost tasteless, kind of like
> drinking Lapin Kulta (a Finnish beer famous for not having any flavour
> or taste worth mentioning).
>
> Now I'm thinking of trying the better kits from Munton's Gold Range and
> Premium Gold Range. Has anyone tried these and are they any good?
>
> If I end up bying one, how should I make it? I've understood that the
> instructions specifically say that you shouldn't boil the wort since
> it'll disturb the delicate balance of hops in the extract.
>
>
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I have used extract to very good success, mostly Coopers. But I always use 2
kits. I never use one. Try that sometime and see what you get.


"Pyreneesmountain" <glatham@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>I can understand your dissappointment in Munton,, to a greater/lesser
>degree I have found the same for most other manufactuers as well. I cant
>comment on their "no boil" instructions, I suspect it may only apply to
>flavour/aroma hop characteristics.
>
> For quick and dirty replacement of my stocks I still use extract kits,,
> with some additions. Just using the kit tastes thin, flavourless and
> without character. I usually add 1kg or more of a light unhopped liquid
> extract to the batch,, and yess I boil it mostly for sanitary reasons,,
> and if flavour and aroma are required, I add a small amount of hops if I
> am familiar with the style. I use a 9 liter pot and boil around 5 liters
> of liquid,, ao you dont really need a giant pot for the task. curiously
> though, I have also tried using two Geordie kits once, and it still turned
> out thin and tasteless,, go figure!
>
> Good luck, and best wishes on your brew. Even a thin tasetless beer is
> great when you aint got no BASS
> "hevimees" <hevimees.1v1o0l@usenet.brewtank.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> I recently tried the Wheat Beer from Munton's Connoisseur Range. It was
>> a huge disappointment since it was almost tasteless, kind of like
>> drinking Lapin Kulta (a Finnish beer famous for not having any flavour
>> or taste worth mentioning).
>>
>> Now I'm thinking of trying the better kits from Munton's Gold Range and
>> Premium Gold Range. Has anyone tried these and are they any good?
>>
>> If I end up bying one, how should I make it? I've understood that the
>> instructions specifically say that you shouldn't boil the wort since
>> it'll disturb the delicate balance of hops in the extract.
>>
>>
>> --
>> hevimees
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>> hevimees's Profile: [url]http://www.brewtank.com/member.php?userid=150[/url]
>> View this thread: [url]http://www.brewtank.com/showthread.php?t=2274[/url]
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[hevimees]

It seems I wasn't accurate enough when I posted my first message, so I'll try to do it now.

I have made beer more than once, good batches (for example Cooper's Lager, Stout and Draught) and less good ones (Cooper's Real Ale, Geordie Lager etc.).

The reason I mentioned Munton's Wheat Beer is because it was the first time I made anything with Munton's extracts, and it turned out disappointing.

The main point in my message was: are Munton's Gold Range and Premium Gold Range kits good?

In Finland there are only two brands of no-sugar-to-add all malt kits available: the aforementioned Munton's kits and Woodforde's kits. Since getting these kits is much easier than purchasing DME, special malts and hops separately, I'm more than interested in trying them. But if someone has tried them and could tell me if they are good, I'd be quite happy.

And the reason I asked about how to make them, is that the instructions saying not to boil the wort contradict everything I've read about beer making so far. So I'd like to know if someone has tried making them in different ways and possibly found differences in the results.

[Tikker]

My Father brews kit beers regularly, Coopers and Muntons.
He always boils, based on suggestions from our LHBS guy and often dry hops some of them, in the keg.
He always adds 3 lbs. of light DME to each batch at the beginning of the boil and only boils for 15 minutes. It's been so long since I did a kit I don't remember if the added DME is a standard addition or not.
His brews, for the most part, turn out quite nice.