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Old 09-12-2005, 02:31 PM
Mandy
 
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Adding more hops

I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.

I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
add the extra hops at the same time.

Does that sound right?

Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
before bottling?

Thanks in advance.


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Old 09-12-2005, 03:30 PM
Dan Logcher
 
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Re: Adding more hops

Mandy wrote:[color=blue]
> I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>
> I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
> add the extra hops at the same time.
>
> Does that sound right?
>
> Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
> bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
> before bottling?[/color]

It doesn't really sound right to me.. but maybe it is. I was at the
American Beer Fest in Boston over the summer and one vendor had a device
that forced the beer thru the hops when serving.

But it is my understanding that the hop oils do not come out unless heated.

--
Dan
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:30 PM
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
 
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Re: Adding more hops

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:01:36 GMT, <sexycoedwku@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>
> I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
> add the extra hops at the same time.
>
> Does that sound right?[/color]

Yes, it's called "dry hopping". Your procedure sounds fine.
[color=blue]
> Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
> bottling.[/color]

A week or two would be fine.
[color=blue]
> Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
> before bottling?[/color]

You don't need to actually filter it, but when you rack to your bottling
bucket you should be careful to leave as much of the sediment and hops
behind as you can.


John.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:30 PM
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
 
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Re: Adding more hops

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:37:40 -0400, <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:[color=blue]
> Mandy wrote:[color=green]
>> I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>>
>> I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
>> add the extra hops at the same time.
>>
>> Does that sound right?
>>
>> Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
>> bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
>> before bottling?[/color]
>
> It doesn't really sound right to me.. but maybe it is. I was at the
> American Beer Fest in Boston over the summer and one vendor had a device
> that forced the beer thru the hops when serving.
>
> But it is my understanding that the hop oils do not come out unless heated.[/color]

That's true for bittering, but dry hopping as the poster above describes is
for mostly aroma and some flavour. You don't need heat for those.


John.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:30 PM
Mandy
 
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Re: Adding more hops

Well it is a typical recipe from brewers' best, however I am just trying to
add extra hop/bitter flavor. The owner of the brewing supply store told me
to get two extra packs of hops, add one-pack 15 minutes before brewing ends
and the other after the initial fermentation. I really am just trying to
figure exactly how to do this. Thanks for your advice.

"Dan Logcher" <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4325caf4$0$567$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...[color=blue]
> Mandy wrote:[color=green]
>> I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after
>> fermentation.
>>
>> I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
>> add the extra hops at the same time.
>>
>> Does that sound right?
>>
>> Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit
>> before bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast
>> sediment before bottling?[/color]
>
> It doesn't really sound right to me.. but maybe it is. I was at the
> American Beer Fest in Boston over the summer and one vendor had a device
> that forced the beer thru the hops when serving.
>
> But it is my understanding that the hop oils do not come out unless
> heated.
>
> --
> Dan[/color]


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Old 09-12-2005, 03:30 PM
Greg LaPolla
 
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Re: Adding more hops

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:01:36 GMT, "Mandy" <sexycoedwku@hotmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>
>I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
>add the extra hops at the same time.
>
>Does that sound right?[/color]

Yes
[color=blue]
>
>Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
>bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
>before bottling?[/color]

Dont filter it you will remove the yeast. just rack it to a bottling
bucket to remove the sediment then bottle.
[color=blue]
>
>Thanks in advance.
>[/color]
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:42 PM
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
 
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Re: Adding more hops

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:07:19 GMT, <sexycoedwku@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Well it is a typical recipe from brewers' best, however I am just trying to
> add extra hop/bitter flavor. The owner of the brewing supply store told me
> to get two extra packs of hops, add one-pack 15 minutes before brewing ends[/color]

This will give you extra hop flavour (not the same thing as bitterness).
[color=blue]
> and the other after the initial fermentation.[/color]

This will give you extra aroma.
[color=blue]
> I really am just trying to figure exactly how to do this.[/color]

It sounds like your procedure for adding the hops is correct, but neither one
will give you much bitterness, if any. In order to add extra bitterness you
would have to boil more hops for the entire duration of the boil (60 minutes?)

It all depends on what you want to add.


John.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:42 PM
Dan Logcher
 
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Re: Adding more hops

John 'Shaggy' Kolesar wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:37:40 -0400, <dlogcher*xspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Mandy wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>>>
>>>I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
>>>add the extra hops at the same time.
>>>
>>>Does that sound right?
>>>
>>>Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit before
>>>bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast sediment
>>>before bottling?[/color]
>>
>>It doesn't really sound right to me.. but maybe it is. I was at the
>>American Beer Fest in Boston over the summer and one vendor had a device
>>that forced the beer thru the hops when serving.
>>
>>But it is my understanding that the hop oils do not come out unless heated.[/color]
>
>
> That's true for bittering, but dry hopping as the poster above describes is
> for mostly aroma and some flavour. You don't need heat for those.[/color]

Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now that I understand what the OP
was looking to do.

--
Dan
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Old 09-12-2005, 05:30 PM
Mandy
 
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Re: Adding more hops

Thanks for all of your advice. I learned a lot in the past 30 minutes. I
will rack it today. Thanks again.

"Mandy" <sexycoedwku@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ojVe.345658$xm3.86175@attbi_s21...[color=blue]
>I am trying a new recipe that requires I add extra hops after fermentation.
>
> I was thinking that I should rack the beer into a secondary fermenter and
> add the extra hops at the same time.
>
> Does that sound right?
>
> Also how much longer after adding the hops should I let the beer sit
> before bottling. Finally, should I filter out all the hops and yeast
> sediment before bottling?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>[/color]


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Old 09-12-2005, 06:41 PM
James Solomon
 
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Re: Adding more hops

Thanks for the information. If I wanted to make an ESB, could I just take a
typical IPA recipe and add extra hops for the duration of the boil, and add
them after the initial fermentation?

Thanks

James

"John 'Shaggy' Kolesar" <spam@shagg.net> wrote in message
news:slrndibmub.gad.spam@weizen.shagg.net...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:07:19 GMT, <sexycoedwku@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> Well it is a typical recipe from brewers' best, however I am just trying
>> to
>> add extra hop/bitter flavor. The owner of the brewing supply store told
>> me
>> to get two extra packs of hops, add one-pack 15 minutes before brewing
>> ends[/color]
>
> This will give you extra hop flavour (not the same thing as bitterness).
>[color=green]
>> and the other after the initial fermentation.[/color]
>
> This will give you extra aroma.
>[color=green]
>> I really am just trying to figure exactly how to do this.[/color]
>
> It sounds like your procedure for adding the hops is correct, but neither
> one
> will give you much bitterness, if any. In order to add extra bitterness
> you
> would have to boil more hops for the entire duration of the boil (60
> minutes?)
>
> It all depends on what you want to add.
>
>
> John.[/color]


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