Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???

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  1. john

    john Guest

    Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???

    Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    bakers yeast will this need to ferment???

    I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.

    Any ideas?

    TIA
    John
  2. Stephen.....

    Stephen..... Guest

    it's not a good idea to use brown sugar.
    Stephen.
    "john" <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote in message
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    Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???

    Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    bakers yeast will this need to ferment???

    I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.

    Any ideas?

    TIA
    John
  3. Karl S.

    Karl S. Guest

    john wrote:
    > Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???
    >
    > Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    > that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    > bakers yeast will this need to ferment???
    >
    > I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    > go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    > TIA
    > John


    As an experiment, I once brewed up a concoction using baker's yeast.
    It produced an unusually strong "raw bread dough" odor, but extended
    conditioning time reduced that pretty well. Technically, I'm guessing
    you'd get something like hard cider out of it. You'd do better buying a
    packet of yeast recommended for cider though.

    Karl S.
  4. "john" <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote in message
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    > Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???
    >
    > Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar

    so
    > that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How

    much
    > bakers yeast will this need to ferment???
    >
    > I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    > go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.


    I've made cider with baker's yeast. It works, it really works, makes
    alcohol and all that. HOWEVER, it tastes a lot more like raw bread dough
    than cider. Perhaps if you aged it for several years, the yeast would
    settle out and it would mellow. But I ended up dumping mine down the sink
    shortly after making it. Raw bread dough flavor just isn't my thing, at
    least, not in my cider. You're better off buying a cider yeast. It's not
    terribly expensive, perhaps $5 American. And it will turn out delicious.
    But nix the idea about brown sugar, and use real apple cider only, not apple
    juice. Don't add any water.

    Good luck!

    --
    Dave
    "Just a drink, a little drink, and I'll be feeling GOOooOOooOOooD!" --
    Genesis, 1973-ish
  5. Stephen.....

    Stephen..... Guest

    John :-
    "BAKER'S YEAST"
    Although having a reasonable alcohol tolerance of about 12% , it has the
    property of giving off large volumes of carbon dioxide( which, after all, is
    what the baker wants!).If used as a wine yeast, there will tend to be a rapid
    ferment which clears slowly and leaves loose, easily disturbed lees.For
    beginners, the quick ferment is a useful encouragement to further ventures, as
    it does prove that fermentation occurs even if a superior wine is not produced.
    "BREWERS YEAST"
    Is taken to be the yeast used by English brewers. It is a top fermenting yeast
    and forms a thick 'PANCAKE' on top of the fermenting liquor. It gives a rapid
    ferment and has a lower alcohol tolerance than wine yeasts. If used for a wine,
    it will confer a beery taste to the wine. Although a bottom fermenting yeast,
    lager yeast is another species of brewer's yeast.

    Stephen
    "john" <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote in message
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    Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???

    Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    bakers yeast will this need to ferment???

    I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.

    Any ideas?

    TIA
    John
  6. danthemen

    danthemen Guest

    Now my son. A few tips on how to make a damned fine traditional cider:
    1) If you are not using cider apples, get a good blend of about half
    eating and half cooking apples to ensure that it is not too acidic or
    bland
    2) Don't use bakers yeast
    3) Don't use wine yeast. You will get a bone dry cider which will taste
    rather harsh it is also not traditional!
    4) Add one or two campden tablets per gallon to kill off any bad
    organisms. This will let the wild yeast's survive. Let these guys do
    the fermenting. Because they have a low alcohol tolerance, there should
    be residual sugar giving you a nice fruity cider!
    5) Tannin is good. If you could use just loads of eating apples and a
    few crab apples which have lots of tannin, instead of using hint no.1 it
    would be great!
    6) Use apples with lots of flavour. You will not find many of these in
    the supermarket.
    7) Finally do NOT use apple juice concentrate!

    p.s. Use white sugar if you insist on using sugar.




    In message <Yj8Za.888$ES1.264@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, john
    <atari_lover@msn.com> writes
    >Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???
    >
    >Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    >that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    >bakers yeast will this need to ferment???
    >
    >I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    >go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.
    >
    >Any ideas?
    >
    >TIA
    >John


    --
    Dr Dan

    dantheman50_98@yahoo.com
  7. ransom

    ransom Guest

    john <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote in message news:<Yj8Za.888$ES1.264@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
    > Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???
    >
    > Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar so
    > that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How much
    > bakers yeast will this need to ferment???
    >
    > I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    > go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    > TIA
    > John


    Please don't put a cane sugar into must as a frementable unless you
    want to make something to put on pancakes because that is what you
    will get. As for useing bakers yeast I've used it and dumped what the
    result was down the drain spend $.50 and buy some yeast better yet
    spend $5.00 and get wlp#720 from whitelabs.com you will be much better
    off Vikery also makes a good yeast for cider or use wine yeast or a
    ale yeast just rember the yeast you use is what the booz will tast
    like
    Just my 2 cent and 12 years of experance
    Ransom
  8. Alex

    Alex Guest

    john <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote:
    > Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???


    Why not brew something that is supposed to ferment with bakers yeast?
    Sahti is quite special:
    http://www.posbeer.org/oppaat/sahti/

    --
    Alex
    tamm at cs dot helsinki dot fi
  9. willard09

    willard09 Guest

    brewers yeast is the accepted norm i don't believe you will get
    satisfactory results with bakers yeast. you will not need but only a small
    package of yeast anyway

    "john" <atari_lover@msn.com> wrote in message
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    > Bakers Yeast for cider brewing???
    >
    > Im going to be brewing 5 gallons of apple juice with 6lbs of brown sugar

    so
    > that should be about 6 gallons with added water for sugar boiling. How

    much
    > bakers yeast will this need to ferment???
    >
    > I've never used bakers yeast before but my wife has a big tub of it so why
    > go spend money on a specific brewing yeast.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    > TIA
    > John

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