Cleaning and Sanitising Grolsh Bottles

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  1. hoots

    hoots Guest

    I was very lucky to aquire for free, 148 brown grolsh bottles with the
    origional ceramic tops. I then went further and built 12 pack boxes to hope
    all of these bottles.

    My question is there a great way to clean (baically im soaking and scrubing
    and bottle brushing, expecially for the first runs as |I don't know where
    they have been and there are quite dirty)

    The sanitising is what im confused about. right now they are clean, i closed
    the tops without the rubber seal and put seranwrap over them and stored them
    in the cases i built. Is this ok for strage or should i go ahead and use the
    seals to keep them clean

    When ready for use, i was going to use the bottle sprayer to ensure a good
    rinse, then use the sanitizer pump (that squirts up into the bottle) and
    then dunk the bottle tops and ceramic tops in sanitizer .

    Will this be the best way are is there any more pointer i could use

    Michael
  2. Me

    Me Guest

    hoots wrote:
    > I was very lucky to aquire for free, 148 brown grolsh bottles with the
    > origional ceramic tops. I then went further and built 12 pack boxes to hope
    > all of these bottles.
    >
    > My question is there a great way to clean (baically im soaking and scrubing
    > and bottle brushing, expecially for the first runs as |I don't know where
    > they have been and there are quite dirty)
    >
    > The sanitising is what im confused about. right now they are clean, i closed
    > the tops without the rubber seal and put seranwrap over them and stored them
    > in the cases i built. Is this ok for strage or should i go ahead and use the
    > seals to keep them clean
    >
    > When ready for use, i was going to use the bottle sprayer to ensure a good
    > rinse, then use the sanitizer pump (that squirts up into the bottle) and
    > then dunk the bottle tops and ceramic tops in sanitizer .
    >
    > Will this be the best way are is there any more pointer i could use
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >


    Lucky you!

    I take the flip tops entirely off the bottles when cleaning and storing
    them. I store the tops and seals separately from the empty bottles.
    After getting the bottles thoroughly clean (long soak in bleach water
    with dishwashing detergent, followed by good scrub and bottle brushing),
    I rinse them well and store upside down in their boxes. This lets them
    drain and dry out inside so nothing will be trying to grow in any
    residual puddles in the bottles. When it's time to fill them, I dunk
    them in a bucket of sanitizer, including an internal rinse, and let them
    drain while I'm getting the beer ready to go into the bottles. I put a
    sufficient number of flip tops and seals in a container of sanitizer and
    put them straight out of there, attach to bottles and seal them as I
    fill the bottles. I've never had a contaminated bottle this way. If
    you use acid sanitizer like Star-San, don't leave the flip tops soaking
    in it more than a few minutes or it will eat all the thin plating off
    the wire, leaving you with less attractive bare steel wire that will rust.

    Cal
  3. Scott

    Scott Guest

    Me wrote:
    > hoots wrote:
    >
    >> I was very lucky to aquire for free, 148 brown grolsh bottles with the
    >> origional ceramic tops. I then went further and built 12 pack boxes to
    >> hope all of these bottles.
    >>
    >> My question is there a great way to clean (baically im soaking and
    >> scrubing and bottle brushing, expecially for the first runs as |I
    >> don't know where they have been and there are quite dirty)
    >>
    >> The sanitising is what im confused about. right now they are clean, i
    >> closed the tops without the rubber seal and put seranwrap over them
    >> and stored them in the cases i built. Is this ok for strage or should
    >> i go ahead and use the seals to keep them clean
    >>
    >> When ready for use, i was going to use the bottle sprayer to ensure a
    >> good rinse, then use the sanitizer pump (that squirts up into the
    >> bottle) and then dunk the bottle tops and ceramic tops in sanitizer .
    >>
    >> Will this be the best way are is there any more pointer i could use
    >>
    >> Michael
    >>

    >
    > Lucky you!
    >
    > I take the flip tops entirely off the bottles when cleaning and storing
    > them. I store the tops and seals separately from the empty bottles.
    > After getting the bottles thoroughly clean (long soak in bleach water
    > with dishwashing detergent, followed by good scrub and bottle brushing),
    > I rinse them well and store upside down in their boxes. This lets them
    > drain and dry out inside so nothing will be trying to grow in any
    > residual puddles in the bottles. When it's time to fill them, I dunk
    > them in a bucket of sanitizer, including an internal rinse, and let them
    > drain while I'm getting the beer ready to go into the bottles. I put a
    > sufficient number of flip tops and seals in a container of sanitizer and
    > put them straight out of there, attach to bottles and seal them as I
    > fill the bottles. I've never had a contaminated bottle this way. If
    > you use acid sanitizer like Star-San, don't leave the flip tops soaking
    > in it more than a few minutes or it will eat all the thin plating off
    > the wire, leaving you with less attractive bare steel wire that will rust.
    >
    > Cal
    >
    >

    I use B-Brite cleanser for cleaning. Let the bottles soak for a few
    minutes in the solution then attack with a bottle brush. Then I rinse
    with a "Jet Bottle Washer" that I got from my supplier in
    Minneapolis/St. Paul.
    http://www.northernbrewer.com/pics/fullsize/jet-washer.jpg
    This thing really blows the crap out!

    Scott
  4. KenS

    KenS Guest

    On Mar 13, 7:13 am, Scott <acepi...@bloomer.net> wrote:
    > Me wrote:
    > > hoots wrote:

    >
    > >> I was very lucky to aquire for free, 148 brown grolsh bottles with the
    > >> origional ceramic tops. I then went further and built 12 pack boxes to
    > >> hope all of these bottles.

    >
    > >> My question is there a great way to clean (baically im soaking and
    > >> scrubing and bottle brushing, expecially for the first runs as |I
    > >> don't know where they have been and there are quite dirty)

    >
    > >> The sanitising is what im confused about. right now they are clean, i
    > >> closed the tops without the rubber seal and put seranwrap over them
    > >> and stored them in the cases i built. Is this ok for strage or should
    > >> i go ahead and use the seals to keep them clean

    >
    > >> When ready for use, i was going to use the bottle sprayer to ensure a
    > >> good rinse, then use the sanitizer pump (that squirts up into the
    > >> bottle) and then dunk the bottle tops and ceramic tops in sanitizer .

    >
    > >> Will this be the best way are is there any more pointer i could use

    >
    > >> Michael

    >
    > > Lucky you!

    >
    > > I take the flip tops entirely off the bottles when cleaning and storing
    > > them.  I store the tops and seals separately from the empty bottles.
    > > After getting the bottles thoroughly clean (long soak in bleach water
    > > with dishwashing detergent, followed by good scrub and bottle brushing),
    > > I rinse them well and store upside down in their boxes.  This lets them
    > > drain and dry out inside so nothing will be trying to grow in any
    > > residual puddles in the bottles.  When it's time to fill them, I dunk
    > > them in a bucket of sanitizer, including an internal rinse, and let them
    > > drain while I'm getting the beer ready to go into the bottles.  I put a
    > > sufficient number of flip tops and seals in a container of sanitizer and
    > > put them straight out of there, attach to bottles and seal them as I
    > > fill the bottles.  I've never had a contaminated bottle this way.  If
    > > you use acid sanitizer like Star-San, don't leave the flip tops soaking
    > > in it more than a few minutes or it will eat all the thin plating off
    > > the wire, leaving you with less attractive bare steel wire that will rust.

    >
    > > Cal

    >
    > I use B-Brite cleanser for cleaning.  Let the bottles soak for a few
    > minutes in the solution then attack with a bottle brush.  Then I rinse
    > with a "Jet Bottle Washer" that I got from my supplier in
    > Minneapolis/St. Paul.http://www.northernbrewer.com/pics/fullsize/jet-washer.jpg
    > This thing really blows the crap out!
    >
    > Scott- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Occasionally, you will get a bottle that has dried remnants on the
    bottom. The best way (that I have found) to get it out is to take
    about 1/8 tablespoon of Oxyclean (or similar) cleaner and put it in
    the bottle and fill with warm/hot water. Let it sit for an hour and
    then hit it as Scott described above.
  5. hoots

    hoots Guest

    I'll hav eto agree that there was some botles with dried crusties in the
    bottles. I soaked them for a few hours and hot water and detergent and then
    scrubbed, most bottle got clean but got about 24 that still have a little
    film or crusty areas.

    not too sure about leaving them updside down in the box right now as i jsut
    hastly made the cases. When I remake the better ones, ill make sure to make
    the bottle out of something that will allow me to leave upside down.

    Like i said, i left them upside down for about 10 hours and then just left
    caps on with out seals and saran wrapped each bottle top.

    Thanks for all the tips,

    Michael
  6. Mike Lenker

    Mike Lenker Guest

    I use them all the time, it's great to be able to fill with one hand and cap
    with the other...

    For saintization I just soak all my bottles in my laundry tub in a weak
    bleach solution. For Grolsch-style bottles I inspect the seals and re-use
    if not too worn looking. Spares are easy to get at most home brew shops.
    Bottles, caps, seals and everything go in the tub to soak for an hour or so.
    Then I dump it all out, and use a 2-bottle bottle washer (lotsa power) to
    give them a hot rinse and let them drain. Never had contamination. The key
    to getting the crud out is to rinse out the bottle immediately after
    drinking, let a little water soak in the bottom, it should all just dump
    right out. I store the bottles dry, upright, with caps on.

    I have swing-top bottles in sizes from 12 to 40 ounces. Just keep an eye on
    the shelves at your local beer purveyor. I get most of mine that way.
    Fischer d'Alsace makes a nice 20 or 24 oz swing top. There are a couple
    German brands that do 18 or 20 oz tall bottles. I got my 40 ouncer from a
    Breckenridge brewery holiday ale. Also have three ceramic swing-tops.
    These require a little extra care for cleaning since you can't easily see in
    them, but they make a great presentation and you certainly don't have to
    worry about light getting in.

    good luck and happy brewing.
    mkl


    "hoots" <me@nowhere.net> wrote in message
    news:V3IBj.16196$xq2.5061@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
    >I was very lucky to aquire for free, 148 brown grolsh bottles with the
    >origional ceramic tops. I then went further and built 12 pack boxes to hope
    >all of these bottles.
    >
    > My question is there a great way to clean (baically im soaking and
    > scrubing and bottle brushing, expecially for the first runs as |I don't
    > know where they have been and there are quite dirty)
    >
    > The sanitising is what im confused about. right now they are clean, i
    > closed the tops without the rubber seal and put seranwrap over them and
    > stored them in the cases i built. Is this ok for strage or should i go
    > ahead and use the seals to keep them clean
    >
    > When ready for use, i was going to use the bottle sprayer to ensure a good
    > rinse, then use the sanitizer pump (that squirts up into the bottle) and
    > then dunk the bottle tops and ceramic tops in sanitizer .
    >
    > Will this be the best way are is there any more pointer i could use
    >
    > Michael
    >
  7. rsmith

    rsmith New Member

    This is what my mum taught me and I have been following it religiously. Works best for me till now. After thoroughly washing the bottles with sanitizers, I keep them under the sun upright to dry up.

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