Not sure how I missed your post, but thank you. I'm thinking next year to plant about half a dozen or so of them. See how they work out. Thanks for the warning too. So far I've had good luck with my local nursery.Yes Jason ,I made a Black Noble Muscadine from a state champ recipe that came our fine. There are some vinifera hybrids that can grow in Florida but they are troublesome. Fungus problems and such. Be ware of Tyty nurserys and their affiliates they will send you any diseased thing and tell you a rooted cutting is a 3 year old plant.